The Labour Party

@The Future’s Blue! My apologies, it was the ex governor of the B of E who endorsed her but the DG of the CBI also went into bat for her.

Key support.
I was about to point this out myself.

When these "establishment figures" come out to bat for labour it shows how far right they've moved.
 
The Red Star style of Labour has long gone partly due to the media dripping of Socialism is bad and the general population even with the state of the country becoming more 'wealthy' and less union focused.

It strikes me that Sir could do a lot worse than putting a load of northern birds in charge and just smile at the cameras...in fact what he's been doing for a few years now & hope they can sort at least some of the fucking mess out.
 
I was about to point this out myself.

When these "establishment figures" come out to bat for labour it shows how far right they've moved.

Something I get as they had to make that move to become electable.

The UK will never elect a left wing government like one Corbyn would have delivered.

Banks and business run the country and after Truss, you either conform or you will have no chance.
 
The speeches by Reeves and Rayner sounded like leaders. Putting aside my own political beliefs both sounded like they believed what they were saying and put their personality into them.

Not a fan of Streeting but I'll give him his due he can also hold a room when he gets on his soapbox.

Lammy sounded like he was reading his cue cards on LBC.

Starmer will have to hit a zinger to top them.

Tory K claims he has a fantastic sense of humour. He'll need to bring that out to show the public he'd worth voting for as a leader, not just because the Tories are shit.

Labour can still spursy the upcoming election. If they do Reeves, Streeting or Rayner will be his replacement.

I can see the PLP backing Reeves and the party membership backing Rayner.
 
I want to be optimistic.

I live in a fairly safe Labour seat and will hold my nose and vote for them.

My concern is we'll have 5 years of caretaker Keir not wanting to rock the boat with the media or business booted out after one term by the further right Tory party who spend 5 years attacking him on being soft on migration and allowing me to use women toilets.

Labour might get a wafer thin majority and that would be enough just to maintain this shit course rather than do anything radical like making the rich pay their fair share.
I live in a safe Labour seat we have seen a large area of brown field land built on with a mix of houses and affordable homes no flats just lovely homes. That makes me optimistic about the future of the next generation.
A lot of people think like you do that Starmer “won’t want to rock the boat”
I think he is a strong leader Labour have learned over the 13 years to keep their cards close and not reveal to much to soon look at the two strong women by his side today unlike the women beside Sunak.
Whatever happens it can’t be worse than the lies and parties in Number 10
 
Dress it how we want, they trust her, she is one of them.
I’m happy with that as I’m not too ideological, believing competence and fairness in the position is more valuable than making a stance on behalf of the lobbyests.

If she can bring them onside, and it’s the best for the country, then I’m content.
 
The speeches by Reeves and Rayner sounded like leaders. Putting aside my own political beliefs both sounded like they believed what they were saying and put their personality into them.

Not a fan of Streeting but I'll give him his due he can also hold a room when he gets on his soapbox.

Lammy sounded like he was reading his cue cards on LBC.

Starmer will have to hit a zinger to top them.

Tory K claims he has a fantastic sense of humour. He'll need to bring that out to show the public he'd worth voting for as a leader, not just because the Tories are shit.

Labour can still spursy the upcoming election. If they do Reeves, Streeting or Rayner will be his replacement.

I can see the PLP backing Reeves and the party membership backing Rayner.
Team Labour ;-)
 
Popped out to the shops before and threw LBC on the radio. Iain Dale was on saying that he was impressed with Reeve but was a little disappointed that she didn’t set out an economic strategy.

I know he’s a disgruntled Tory but surely he understands that if Labour set out how they are going to do things, there will be a large chance that the Tories will just rip it off and repackage it as their own. It’s not like the Tories haven’t set precedent over issues that they could not resolve.
 

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