The Owners

[Prestwich_Blue]

The other thing is the Sheikh himself. An avid follower of the English game and who some 14 months into this venture has still not shown his face at a City game over here. Not one.

Quite right - Mansour OUT!

 

[HelloCity]

The other thing is the Sheikh himself. An avid follower of the English game and who some 14 months into this venture has still not shown his face at a City game over here. Not one.

Quite right - Mansour OUT!

Amazing isn't it?

 

[Anonymous]

You've been consistent in your sarcasm over the last 12 months or so, so that's something I guess...

To be honest, if I had as low an opinion of Hughes as you do - I would seriously wonder whether our owners lack of any footballing background is rendering them completely clueless...you can't have one without the other. Well, you can, as you keep pointing out. I just can't suspend disbelief to that extent...

The part i've highlighted above is interesting as it is almost an admission that you're not in possession of anywhere near the full facts, so you can't really know whether Hughes is "just an average premiership manager" or something more than that...

I freely admit I do not have all the facts or even most of them. There are posters on here who are probably more aware of what is really going on than I do - yourself included I suspect.

All I can do is post my opinion based on what I observe from afar. I did the same with Frank and a lot of what I thought and said turned out to be correct. Cookie himself has come out and admitted what a lot of us suspected.

It doesn't mean I am correct about Hughes but until he starts demonstrating that he is up to the task then my opinion will be that he isn't. The predictabilty of Hughes is very annoying. Getting a bit sticky results wise and team playing like poo and lo and behold we have Ireland coming out with all that garbage rehashed from last year. Cook coming out with all the taggert references was also predictable bollocks. It drives me insane and the only relief is coming on here and being 'sarcastic, snide' (and funny you have to give me funny) because if Hughes and co going to act like tits and treat me like an idiot then I'm going to vent for a bit.

The other thing is the Sheikh himself. An avid follower of the English game and who some 14 months into this venture has still not shown his face at a City game over here. Not one. And until the Welsh Wizard has demonstrated to the Sheikh that he has cracked this football manager malarky and got his team to produce credible performances and results for longer than three matches on the bounce then my betting is that he won't be seen. I mean can you imagine the Sheiks first home game and it all goes tits. Press would have a f**king field day.

Cook and the Chairman may have faith in Hughes but it seems the Sheikh isn't prepared to bet on Hughes just yet.

Just my opinion though.

I like you better when you're reasoned and sensible...however the one thing which I find really funny is this utterly untrue notion that you and a few others have on here that the round of interviews given by Stevie were somehow the work of Hughes and Cook...the boy does have his own mind and is capable of forming his own opinions. The vast majority of what he said regarding last season, Elano, etc - is 100% true. Hence when asked about it he said it...there was no ulterior motive.

 

[BobKowalski]

I freely admit I do not have all the facts or even most of them. There are posters on here who are probably more aware of what is really going on than I do - yourself included I suspect.

All I can do is post my opinion based on what I observe from afar. I did the same with Frank and a lot of what I thought and said turned out to be correct. Cookie himself has come out and admitted what a lot of us suspected.

It doesn't mean I am correct about Hughes but until he starts demonstrating that he is up to the task then my opinion will be that he isn't. The predictabilty of Hughes is very annoying. Getting a bit sticky results wise and team playing like poo and lo and behold we have Ireland coming out with all that garbage rehashed from last year. Cook coming out with all the taggert references was also predictable bollocks. It drives me insane and the only relief is coming on here and being 'sarcastic, snide' (and funny you have to give me funny) because if Hughes and co going to act like tits and treat me like an idiot then I'm going to vent for a bit.

The other thing is the Sheikh himself. An avid follower of the English game and who some 14 months into this venture has still not shown his face at a City game over here. Not one. And until the Welsh Wizard has demonstrated to the Sheikh that he has cracked this football manager malarky and got his team to produce credible performances and results for longer than three matches on the bounce then my betting is that he won't be seen. I mean can you imagine the Sheiks first home game and it all goes tits. Press would have a f**king field day.

Cook and the Chairman may have faith in Hughes but it seems the Sheikh isn't prepared to bet on Hughes just yet.

Just my opinion though.

I like you better when you're reasoned and sensible...however the one thing which I find really funny is this utterly untrue notion that you and a few others have on here that the round of interviews given by Stevie were somehow the work of Hughes and Cook...the boy does have his own mind and is capable of forming his own opinions. The vast majority of what he said regarding last season, Elano, etc - is 100% true. Hence when asked about it he said it...there was no ulterior motive.

Well I was half expecting something like it and then it happened so I'll accept that I jumped to a conclusion that was unjustified.

And I'm always reasoned and sensible - you just have to spot the reasonable and sensible bits amongst all the sarcastic and snide bits :)

 

[Anonymous]

I like you better when you're reasoned and sensible...however the one thing which I find really funny is this utterly untrue notion that you and a few others have on here that the round of interviews given by Stevie were somehow the work of Hughes and Cook...the boy does have his own mind and is capable of forming his own opinions. The vast majority of what he said regarding last season, Elano, etc - is 100% true. Hence when asked about it he said it...there was no ulterior motive.

Well I was half expecting something like it and then it happened so I'll accept that I jumped to a conclusion that was unjustified.

And I'm always reasoned and sensible - you just have to spot the reasonable and sensible bits amongst all the sarcastic and snide bits :)

Hughes had to put up with a lot of bullshit which was bang out of order last season - and frankly I'm surprised that a couple of players weren't sacked for the things which they did...now he may well have used the press during that time, but he had no choice whatsoever since certain people working at City (not just players) fancied going out with a bang rather than going quietly...

 

[moomba]

however the one thing which I find really funny is this utterly untrue notion that you and a few others have on here that the round of interviews given by Stevie were somehow the work of Hughes and Cook...the boy does have his own mind and is capable of forming his own opinions. The vast majority of what he said regarding last season, Elano, etc - is 100% true. Hence when asked about it he said it...there was no ulterior motive.

Guilty as charged, but then I did predict last week that we would shortly see an article blaming everything on people no longer involved at the club. It does seem to happen at key points throughout a season, must be pure coincidence in this case.

 

[Anonymous]

however the one thing which I find really funny is this utterly untrue notion that you and a few others have on here that the round of interviews given by Stevie were somehow the work of Hughes and Cook...the boy does have his own mind and is capable of forming his own opinions. The vast majority of what he said regarding last season, Elano, etc - is 100% true. Hence when asked about it he said it...there was no ulterior motive.

Guilty as charged, but then I did predict last week that we would shortly see an article blaming everything on people no longer involved at the club. It does seem to happen at key points throughout a season, must be pure coincidence in this case.

Hang on...it happened last season because it was relevant and true. It's not happened this season other than by chance because a player was asked a question which he answered...

 

[moomba]

Hang on...it happened last season because it was relevant and true. It's not happened this season other than by chance because a player was asked a question which he answered...

Like I said, obviously a lucky coincidence.

 

[blueinsa]

The goalposts shifted for all of us mate, especially Hughes and his team.

The expectations on them were suddenly turned up overnight given our new found wealth, yes by us supporters but also by the press and more importantly by our owners who from minute one, made it very very clear of their ambitions.

As for your point on logic, i can guarentee that you would have said the same about, Robinho or Adebayor or Toure or Tevez. Never in a million years you would have said and i can see why if im being honest but please Billy, do not make the mistake of underestimating the power and influence our owners do have as well as the pulling power of money in what is a professional game.

To sum up, Hughes was brought to the club by a previous Chairman who didnt have a pot to piss in and he wanted a manager that could do a certain job, that was to make us hard to beat and to make sure we didnt go down. Hughes would do that job all day long with no problems but then the goalsposts did move, we all suddenly had different hopes and aspirations and quite rightly so, never had a football club been given such a gift and a chance to stamp it's mark on the football world.

Much was made in the cynical and suddenly frightened press that Hughes would be gone, that our owners didnt know jackshit about football! Now i maybe wrong but i believe the press saved Hughes, the thought of the negative and histerical press our owners would have recieved had they made the choice of shipping Hughes out for a World famous and renowned coach, i believe made our owners bite the bullet, they said the right things and kept him on and gave him his chance.

70 games on with little improvement on performances, please note i use the word performances carefully and not results, and after a very well ochestrated PR campaign by Hughes and Cook for that matter, assuring the world and its dog that Hughes is the next Ferguson incarnate, many of our fans are not convinced that he is the man to take on the challenge and opportunity we have been given. We base that on the performance of the team, not his nationality or his past playing career and im convinced that our owners are thinking the same way. Hughes has been given his time, his money, his team and at the end of this season i honestly believe he will be given his P45 as well and our owners will go all out for a world class coach, someone with a track record of doing the business at the very top tables of world football. I dont harbor any bad feeling to Hughes, he is a good, steady coach but imo, that is all he is at the moment. Will he go on to be great? Hopefully yes, i really hope he does, but at this moment in time, we cant afford to wait and we shouldnt wait, pinning all our hopes on a maybe.

One thing i can gaurentee mate, our owner has got the very best in everything, i bet he doesnt have a Ferrari parked outside with a 1.0l engine in it!

Only the best will do, why should we settle for anything less and why should we apologise for adopting this stance?

Ahh, the old "it was the press that saved Hughes" chestnut.

You make an impassioned argument for why our owners want the best. Now explain to me why they didn't sack Hughes in the summer, why they continue to back him both publicly and privately, and why they are continuing to let him plan, and make huge decisions regarding the club....

I did, read it again!

 

[johnny crossan]

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