The Post General Election Thread

[Johnsonontheleft]

And no chance of Tories not losing seats, the question is how many they will lose

That awks moment when the cleverest guy on the forum...

 

[Ric]

Watching from afar ....... I dislike politics and never usually argue about it...I have enough on my plate following City and pressing F5 during the transfer windows but a question ...

Now the toffs have another 5 years does this mean more cuts to services for the poor and council jobs ?

1. They are not 'toffs'.
2. There is no fucking money. If you suddenly lose your job, do you continue to shop at Waitrose? No you do fucking not you go to Lidl. So yes there will be cuts which is bad news if you are a benefit scrounger but people who genuinely need help, like disability benefit, will still be helped.

One may ask why after 5 years of a mainly Tory Government which apparently is economically rational and creates businesses and jobs then why this is so.

One may also ask, not unreasonably, where exactly £12bn of welfare cuts are going to come from. If JOTL thinks only "benefit scroungers", as he calls them, will suffer then he is even more deluded than I thought. And that is saying something.

 

[Ducado]

Watching from afar ....... I dislike politics and never usually argue about it...I have enough on my plate following City and pressing F5 during the transfer windows but a question ...

Now the toffs have another 5 years does this mean more cuts to services for the poor and council jobs ?

1. They are not 'toffs'.
2. There is no fucking money. If you suddenly lose your job, do you continue to shop at Waitrose? No you do fucking not you go to Lidl. So yes there will be cuts which is bad news if you are a benefit scrounger but people who genuinely need help, like disability benefit, will still be helped.

So what about the local police stations closing, what about Councils who have had funding withdrawn for looking after the elderly and infirm, who then turn up at the local A & E and bed block, I find it interesting that you and a few others keep using the term benefit scrounger, you seem to ave swallowed the Daily Mail book of life hook line and sinker, you will find out soon enough there is 12 billion worth of cuts coming and they will effect every single one of us

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

Watching from afar ....... I dislike politics and never usually argue about it...I have enough on my plate following City and pressing F5 during the transfer windows but a question ...

Now the toffs have another 5 years does this mean more cuts to services for the poor and council jobs ?

1. They are not 'toffs'.
2. There is no fucking money. If you suddenly lose your job, do you continue to shop at Waitrose? No you do fucking not you go to Lidl. So yes there will be cuts which is bad news if you are a benefit scrounger but people who genuinely need help, like disability benefit, will still be helped.

One may ask why after 5 years of a mainly Tory Government which apparently is economically rational and creates businesses and jobs then why this is so.

Do you seriously not understand why cuts still have to be made?

 

[Damocles]

And no chance of Tories not losing seats, the question is how many they will lose

That awks moment when the cleverest guy on the forum...

Yeah right, it was just me AND THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD INCLUDING THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY who thought that. We're all idiots obviously.

Do you seriously not understand why cuts still have to be made?

Nobody is arguing that cuts have to be made. People are arguing where to make those cuts.

Tell you what, scrap HS2 for £8bn and scrap the Trident replacement for £3bn and add 1p onto the higher rate of income tax for £1bn.

£12bn without touching a single service.

 

[Ducado]

1. They are not 'toffs'.
2. There is no fucking money. If you suddenly lose your job, do you continue to shop at Waitrose? No you do fucking not you go to Lidl. So yes there will be cuts which is bad news if you are a benefit scrounger but people who genuinely need help, like disability benefit, will still be helped.

One may ask why after 5 years of a mainly Tory Government which apparently is economically rational and creates businesses and jobs then why this is so.

Do you seriously not understand why cuts still have to be made?

They are not going to get that amount out of the welfare budget, and they have pledged not to cut the NHS, so that leaves Local Government (including child protection and other social services), The Emergency Services, The Armed Forces, Transport, Environment to take the brunt, all of which have suffered huge cuts already and are close to breaking point

 

[roaminblue]

Do you seriously not understand why cuts still have to be made?

In my opinion, it isn't a case of understand or don't understand, its a case of ideology vs ideology. Two simple schools of thought where one believes the state should be downsized, the other believes it should operate on a larger basis.

Neither is wrong, it is all down to opinion and implementation.

 

[Ducado]

Do you seriously not understand why cuts still have to be made?

In my opinion, it isn't a case of understand or don't understand, its a case of ideology vs ideology. Two simple schools of thought where one believes the state should be downsized, the other believes it should operate on a larger basis.

Neither is wrong, it is all down to opinion and implementation.

There is a basic level of funding for civic society breach it you get social chaos (it happened in the 80's and could only be fixed with twice as much spending) that's my concern we are at that basic level now

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

And no chance of Tories not losing seats, the question is how many they will lose

That awks moment when the cleverest guy on the forum...

Yeah right, it was just me AND THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD INCLUDING THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY who thought that. We're all idiots obviously.

Just admit that you are not always right Damo, that will suffice.

Here's another pearler:

I've been keeping an eye on this as UKIP could have possibly decided the election. It seems that every new UKIP voter, about 1 in 4 come from Labour and 3 in 4 come from the Tories.

The big googly that could be thrown today is if UKIP had a "shy" voting public like the Tories did in 1992 or they had in the recent by-elections. Seosa posted the idea with the backup, but essentially whilst 15% of the popular vote wins them a Bullseye pen and a choc-ice, if you raise that by a few percentage points then it takes them over the line in various marginals and they could take anywhere up to 20 seats.

This of course would guarantee a Labour victory.

 

[Damocles]

That awks moment when the cleverest guy on the forum...

Yeah right, it was just me AND THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD INCLUDING THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY who thought that. We're all idiots obviously.

Just admit that you are not always right Damo, that will suffice.

Here's another pearler:

I've been keeping an eye on this as UKIP could have possibly decided the election. It seems that every new UKIP voter, about 1 in 4 come from Labour and 3 in 4 come from the Tories.

The big googly that could be thrown today is if UKIP had a "shy" voting public like the Tories did in 1992 or they had in the recent by-elections. Seosa posted the idea with the backup, but essentially whilst 15% of the popular vote wins them a Bullseye pen and a choc-ice, if you raise that by a few percentage points then it takes them over the line in various marginals and they could take anywhere up to 20 seats.

This of course would guarantee a Labour victory.

The entire world was wrong. As a member of the entire world I was also wrong. It's massively childish that you desire somebody to tell you this and you've bowled a bit of a googly here as I imagine the mods who have been saving you as "not actually a troll or attempting to wind people up" have now got the direct evidence that they requested.

I hope it was worth it for you.