It was dire atmosphere wise when we had no away fans at Maine Road, I can't see that future being marketable.
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The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement
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burning blue soul
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Risk and reward. That is what football ownership is. Owners invest hoping that investment turns into glory for the club, the fans, and reflected back to to them.Fair point. My main concern is the Americans. Their view on sport is fundamentally different from our own which is ok until it threatens the very fabric of football in this country. Imo they view the fans as unlimited cash machines. Closed league were the peacocks of united, Liverpool, Madrid, Barca can strut around holding the rest of us in contempt all because they have a history of success.
Football goes in cycles and those clubs can’t accept the inevitable decline. Instead they chase after money almost akin to a gambler who is convinced he will win with his next roll. Only to realise that he has lost it all.
Debt regret... time to tap these cunts out of English football.
What the American system incorporates is a virtualy ownership risk free weighted system. The US public go along with this as that is how the system evolved from inception. Our system didn't.
The financial investment to create a successful club is eye watering these days, as we all have seen from our last decade of investment. But this does not entitle any owner, or investment arm to cry "unfair". The system can be navigated as it is, it just needs highly trained professionals to handle the investment correctly.
Most of the clubs now in big debt have thrown money about recklessly the last 25 years. A lot of this financial arms race comes down to feeding the egos of the owners and their fans. Sure, go for glory, but don't overreach and put the whole of Football in jeopardy.
College football formed the Power 5 (Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Pac-12 & Big 12) and since then, every single participant in the college football playoff has been from those conferences. There is now talk of reducing it to 4 conferences and making a bigger playoff.A better parallel is NCAA basketball in terms of what the football owners were trying to do -- take a merit-based championship based on local micro-league performance and restrict it to the "big" schools.
Imagine if Duke, North Carolina, Villanova, Michigan, UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, et al got together and said they automatically made into the NCAAs regardless of how they performed in the ACC or whatever, or the conference tournament. Actually, imagine if 48 (3/4 of 64) teams did it (pretend the play in games don't exist).
There would be fucking riots at college campuses all over the nation. Sports talk would go berserk. Knowing America, there would probably be shootings. It would never stand and every single American sports fan would talk of nothing else and wonder in amazement at the incredible stupidity of the universities.
This is the exact dynamic Europe has followed. More spots to the big competitive conferences and less for the smaller. They just use recent results as an excuse to exclude teams rather then relegate and allow them back via promotion. It won’t be long before Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas and the rest get together and make a smaller league similar to the NFL. But it is easier for them, particularly given how corrupt and poorly ran the NCAA is, makes UEFA look like saints.
FogBlueInSanFran
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I agree with this. Take 4 or 5 from each of these conferences plus Notre Dame, add a non-conference "rivalry week" where the Super League plays their traditional geographic archrival if not in the conference, then have the top bowls be the same playoff system as now while the minor bowls are for the leftover geographic conferences.College football formed the Power 5 (Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Pac-12 & Big 12) and since then, every single participant in the college football playoff has been from those conferences. There is now talk of reducing it to 4 conferences and making a bigger playoff.
This is the exact dynamic Europe has followed. More spots to the big competitive conferences and less for the smaller. They just use recent results as an excuse to exclude teams rather then relegate and allow them back via promotion. It won’t be long before Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas and the rest get together and make a smaller league similar to the NFL. But it is easier for them, particularly given how corrupt and poorly ran the NCAA is, makes UEFA look like saints.
Know the feeling -- Georgetown basketball just isn't the same without Syracuse in the Big East.
In other words it turns into a joke. It would no doubt make money but it would still be a joke. And as a Morrisey once said, This joke isn't funny anymoreTo be honest what would be the problem with Inter Miami joining?
If we're designing a new international football competition, is there much difference having Inter Miami when we've got clubs from Asia it the tournament? I bet it would be easier and cheaper for away fans to go to Miami than some of the darkest corners of Easter Europe they currently travel to.
I suppose the problem is that you can't just have East coast teams, you'd have to open it up to the top x MLS teams and then travel would get stupid. And could you stop at the Americans?
You guys keep making up scenarios that are extremely unlikely to happen and arguing that the things you just made up are really silly.In other words it turns into a joke. It would no doubt make money but it would still be a joke. And as a Morrisey once said, This joke isn't funny anymore
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Are we any wiser on which owner(singular) is seriously considering selling up, or are Sky Sports making shit up again?
eastmanc
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Perez is a fucking lunatic.Perez claimed the crowd outside Stamford Bridge was planted there by Javier Tebas live on Spanish TV as a way to hurt him (Perez) personally.
He has lost touch with reality, anyone who is using excerpts from his media appearances as fact needs to check themselves.
He's in the same situation as Laporta, who said very clearly, they aren't officially in until it's passed a vote by the members and he doesn't have the authority to put them in without a vote - and as Laporta is sane, and not peddling conspiracy theories - I'll take his word over Florentino's.
Are we any wiser on which owner(singular) is seriously considering selling up, or are Sky Sports making shit up again?
I imagine the Glazers are seriously considering selling up if someone gives them $4Bn, but it won't be anyone else.
Joe Lewis isn't selling Spurs, Roman's not selling Chelsea, Our lot aren't selling CFG, Kroenke isn't selling even though they want him to and Henry is hardly going to give up on Liverpool after 1 down year.
Dribble
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Haven't the Glazers just put a £4bn price tag on Old Toilet?Are we any wiser on which owner(singular) is seriously considering selling up, or are Sky Sports making shit up again?