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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Didsbury Dave said:
It's driving me mad that we didn't do this. All those years of negative press, of us being the "money club", using "oil money" to buy "merceneries" to "ruin football".

We could have more or less wiped this out with one move. It could have even had major ramifications for our future support. Suddenly amongst all the big boys we would have appeared to be the ones who were about sport and not money. The real irony is that even though that's how it should be spun, the real truth is probably that we didn't really want to give our competitors a leg up and allow them equivalent spending power.
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I'm in the same boat as you regarding what could have been, but in the absence of a crystal ball our management had a choice to make and the choice they made was to hedge their bets by signing a letter of intent and waiting to see how they could play it out.
The same City fans that are criticising the club now would have been livid if the Superleague had taken off and we had been left on the outside.
Once the Hobson's choice was presented to them they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't depending on the eventual outcome.
As it turns out they probably should have gone the other way, but even then, who is to say what the outcome would have been if the 6th club had been someone else.
As it is, after a bit if buffeting and turbulence, we might find that we have come out of this rather well and we might even turn out to be the sole net beneficiaries from this whole sorry episode.[/
 
Dribble said:
Haven't the Glazers just put a £4bn price tag on Old Toilet?
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I've seen that figure banded about but I'm not sure it was the Glazers who came up with it, it was just people adding the debt to the club worth I thought. Also, the way it was phrased by the Sky Sports news guy. It sounded like he was saying "an owner of one of the big six clubs" rather than "the owners of one the big 6 clubs".

United, Liverpool would be plural I think(isn't there another major stakeholder in FSG?), not quite sure about Arsenal or Spurs these days and I doubt City or Chelsea are the club they are talking about. Maybe it was phrased that way to throw us off the scent of who it might be though. They will all end up staying anyway IMO.
 
goalmole said:
I'm in the same boat as you regarding what could have been, but in the absence of a crystal ball our management had a choice to make and the choice they made was to hedge their bets by signing a letter of intent and waiting to see how they could play it out.
The same City fans that are criticising the club now would have been livid if the Superleague had taken off and we had been left on the outside.
Once the Hobson's choice was presented to them they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't depending on the eventual outcome.
As it turns out they probably should have gone the other way, but even then, who is to say what the outcome would have been if the 6th club had been someone else.
As it is, after a bit if buffeting and turbulence, we might find that we have come out of this rather well and we might even turn out to be the sole net beneficiaries from this whole sorry episode.[/
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I agree.

I see the whole thing as simply:

Do I want a Super League? No

If a Super League happens, do I want City in it? Yes
 
goalmole said:
I'm in the same boat as you regarding what could have been, but in the absence of a crystal ball our management had a choice to make and the choice they made was to hedge their bets by signing a letter of intent and waiting to see how they could play it out.
The same City fans that are criticising the club now would have been livid if the Superleague had taken off and we had been left on the outside.
Once the Hobson's choice was presented to them they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't depending on the eventual outcome.
As it turns out they probably should have gone the other way, but even then, who is to say what the outcome would have been if the 6th club had been someone else.
As it is, after a bit if buffeting and turbulence, we might find that we have come out of this rather well and we might even turn out to be the sole net beneficiaries from this whole sorry episode.[/
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I agree that it's very easy to be wise after the event and that now we can all see that our people made the wrong call, but that is only because the scheme collapsed, and I think it was partly City's doing that it fell apart. Another outcome, which struck me as rather more likely when City weren't part of the five original English membership, was that the scheme went ahead and faced with an ultimatum from the rebel clubs UEFA does what it always does and gives in completely and cravenly. ESL is official, the debtors cartel are in and rolling in money and City are left out! Thousands of "livid" City fans as you say and the Glazers cock-a-hoop. But we know City kept in contact with Ceferin over the week end and I bet they planned the destruction of the ESL because the hard line taken by FIFA, UEFA and the PL along with City's (and Chelsea's) withdrawal scuppered it. With the help of thousands of fans who love football and know full well when they're being cheated.
 
Metalartin said:
I've seen that figure banded about but I'm not sure it was the Glazers who came up with it, it was just people adding the debt to the club worth I thought. Also, the way it was phrased by the Sky Sports news guy. It sounded like he was saying "an owner of one of the big six clubs" rather than "the owners of one the big 6 clubs".

United, Liverpool would be plural I think(isn't there another major stakeholder in FSG?), not quite sure about Arsenal or Spurs these days and I doubt City or Chelsea are the club they are talking about. Maybe it was phrased that way to throw us off the scent of who it might be though. They will all end up staying anyway IMO.
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The dude behind Spotify is apparently ready to bid for Arsenal. Personally I can't see any current PL owners getting off the gravy train as things stand.
 
ROCKET80 said:
I agree.

I see the whole thing as simply:

Do I want a Super League? No

If a Super League happens, do I want City in it? Yes
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Got it in one. I still don't get what all the fuss was about. In reality, what other choice did City have? We were the ones who stiffed the ESL, so all's well that ends well. :-)
 
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