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[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

I don't get how people don't understand this. No one - NO ONE - thinks UEFA or the Premier League or the Champions League is a paragon of virtue or civic minded charity. But at it's very core it's a competition that West Ham or Leicester or Everton or Man City, through good management, investment, good luck or a mixture of the three, can work towards. Yes, the scales or rigged, yes that's easier said than done, but it's clear to everyone how you do that. This breaks that, and it breaks it in a way where there is no going back. The CL can always be rejigged or reformed, for better or worse, but this shatters 70 years of national football's relationship to European football and is just deeply, grossly unfair. Of all the fans, you'd hope City fans understand this. They've used a pandemic to pull a trigger on something that if it happened 10 years ago would have killed us dead.

We aren't bigger or more important than Newcastle, Derby, West Ham, Everton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, Wolves and so on and so on, we are just having a good run. We don't deserve a good run forever, no one does.

I think we have our new banner.............

 

[mat]

Bloody hell

james corden

take a bow

Channeled his inner Smiffy.

 

[MarsLlama]

I see it is already a closed shop, if West Ham were to qualify for CL they have two choices. Invest heavily to compete with the likes of us and PSG, and risk a Leeds style collapse if it turns to shit or hope they finish third and get the Thursday night cup. A quick look at the winners of the CL for the last twenty years shows the lack of any real competition.

That's a contradiction right there in your first two sentences. The fact that West Ham can qualify for the CL means it's not a closed shop.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Just a tad hypocritical that, IMO.

And I haven't heard him moaning about clubs' spending at all.

Neville isn't moaning about money, he is completely against the power held by the clubs and wants regulation at that level and he is 100% correct, it needs regulation.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

If this has taught me anything it is that there are people out there who hate Gary neville more than they love City.

This is bad news for us.
This is bad news for football.
This is immoral.
This is just flat out wrong on every level.

Rest assured we (City) are being played and we will be the biggest overall losers from this is we don't get out from under it immediately.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

With regards to what Tolmie posted, just imagine if this agreement in principle from ourselves was hatched with us to then leak the intention of its creation, forcing the instigators to resign and leave their UEFA/ECA positions, show the clubs involved true colours to the world

All whilst still meeting with ceferin to say - we are not the enemy, look at what your supposed glory clubs have done

We then pull out leaving this lot pissing into the wind

fingers crossed

The phrase 'clutching at straws' springs to mind....

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Like Moshiri won't pick up the phone if Perez rang him today.

“You take part in society” is a horseshit excuse. And I’m surprised people on here keep trying to make it. Everton are in the right here.

 

[lee_wsm]

City find a way out of this before it’s too late

 

[Claytop]

Like Moshiri won't pick up the phone if Perez rang him today.

Exactly, not one of the Prem club owners would turn this down if offered.

Not that it makes it anymore acceptable but the self righteous speeches from those who were never going to get be involved is tiring.

 

[BillyShears]

Yes, they want a guaranteed return on their investment, the ESL concept gives them that guarantee. Mansour is no different. The only difference would be accepting a longer timeframe to see that return than your average venture capitalist.

Silver Lake, an American equity fund, bought a 10% share in CFG. You reckon they were buying in for the romance or a healthy return on that investment? How do you think they would react if City passed on an invite to join a franchise model with 11 of the biggest clubs in world football and a guaranteed £350m sign on payment?

There's emotion, romance, and football fandom. Then there's the realities of a board of directors and the fiduciary duties of that board. Your post is pot on.

The question of returns is really at the root of this. The Americans want to jack their returns up and FAST. Roman and Mansour can probably afford to sit on the asset for another ten years, but the reality is with Silver Lake at the table also and with the harsh fact that they are going to go and head and try and do this regardless of City's stance, City had little choice.

Be on the outside pissing in or on the inside pissing out.