The Title Race 2022/23

[pudge]

How shocked will you be if Newcastle get a result today?…

I'd be shocked if Newcastle get anything off them

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Come on Newcastle.....

Hopefully St James Park is up for it.... !!!

It will be, this is their biggest game of the season, their fans will be on the lash all day & expect a performance, there’s lots for them to play for, they’re taking on one of the established so called elite, a team they’re hoping to emulate, as well as finishing as high up the table as possible, beating the raggies to 3rd, closing the gap to the very top, they’re at home, with in form strikers and a stubborn defence, backed up by an excellent keeper, their midfield is full of runners & grafters, if Arsenal aren’t at the top of their game then they’ll be punished

 

[Deleted member 81382]

If we win the last 4 games are there any other records broken?

We will be only the fifth club in English football history to win three league titles in a row.

Huddersfield Town: 1923-1926
Arsenal: 1932-1935
Liverpool: 1981-1984
Manchester United: 1998-2001, 2006-2009

Technically a record equalled not broken but still shows what an impressive achievement it would be given it's only been done five times by four different clubs in 135 years.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I'd bee shocked if Newcastle get anything of them

Not so sure myself. Arsenal players must have looked at us and though what's the point in giving 110% now. It will be interesting though, and I hope Arsenal do come with their A-game, I am hoping for big things from them next year, be in the mix and dilute our competition somewhat.

 

[heslops barnet]

i think if Arsenal win today, they win their remaining fixtures. The momentum and confidence will be back.

Next week at Everton is going to be crucial for us. A game that could pretty much send Everton down if they lose today away to Brighton and a game that if Arsenal were to win today, I think momentum swings their way a little.

That last week for us is very tough. Chelsea(h) and Brighton and Brentford away.

It only takes a poor half like we have had in the last couple of games and it could be curtains for our title bid.

I can't stress how important it is for us today for Newcastle to get at least a draw.

Can’t rely on other teams doing us favours…..

 

[Claytop]

I’m fairly confident we will do what is needed even if Arsenal win out.

Still be nice if they made it easier for us though..

 

[Deleted member 81382]

i think if Arsenal win today, they win their remaining fixtures. The momentum and confidence will be back.

Next week at Everton is going to be crucial for us. A game that could pretty much send Everton down if they lose today away to Brighton and a game that if Arsenal were to win today, I think momentum swings their way a little.

That last week for us is very tough. Chelsea(h) and Brighton and Brentford away.

It only takes a poor half like we have had in the last couple of games and it could be curtains for our title bid.

I can't stress how important it is for us today for Newcastle to get at least a draw.

I tend to agree.

If Arsenal lose or even draw today then I think their heads will drop and will probably lead to them dropping more points in their last three games as they'll think they've blown it.

However, if they beat Newcastle I think they could get a second wind which will help them to beat Brighton. Especially if we were to drop points against Everton which is not beyond the realms of possibility when you consider all the factors surrounding that game.

I'm stating the obvious but Newcastle getting something today could be a really pivotal result in the title race because of how tough our fixtures get from this point on with the Madrid games on top.

Obviously we can still win the league even if Arsenal win today but it would be great to have that extra little bit of breathing room as I think we might need it.

 

[SebastianBlue]

We will be only the fifth club in English football history to win three league titles in a row.

Huddersfield Town: 1923-1926
Arsenal: 1932-1935
Liverpool: 1981-1984
Manchester United: 1998-2001, 2006-2009

Technically a record equalled not broken but still shows what an impressive achievement it would be given it's only been done five times by four different clubs in 135 years.

United did it twice in just over a decade you say?

Should forward that on to the BBC, Sky Sports, Nick Harris, and Miguel Delaney, as I believe they are looking for examples of dominance that has been bad for English football and may have missed that one.

 

[SebastianBlue]

i think if Arsenal win today, they win their remaining fixtures. The momentum and confidence will be back.

Next week at Everton is going to be crucial for us. A game that could pretty much send Everton down if they lose today away to Brighton and a game that if Arsenal were to win today, I think momentum swings their way a little.

That last week for us is very tough. Chelsea(h) and Brighton and Brentford away.

It only takes a poor half like we have had in the last couple of games and it could be curtains for our title bid.

I can't stress how important it is for us today for Newcastle to get at least a draw.

We haven’t had poor halves in the last few games.

And quite literally all evidence from every recent title run-in contradicts a belief that we may struggle this year, regardless of what Arsenal does.

And all evidence of this title run-in is that Arsenal are the side most likely to struggle with the pressure over the last few matches.

It is so interesting how these narratives—that are not supported by any evidence—develop and disseminate.

All it seems to take is for Arsenal to win one game and for us not to win a match 8-0 and they come rushing back, as many blues seem to completely forget everything that has occurred in previous seasons.

 

[Deleted member 81382]

United did it twice in just over a decade you say?

Should forward that on to the BBC, Sky Sports, Nick Harris, and Miguel Delaney, as I believe they are looking for examples of dominance that has been bad for English football and may have missed that one.

It is quite funny how they try to make out that the Premier League could be won by anyone until Pep came along.

 

[SebastianBlue]

It is quite funny how they try to make out that the Premier League could be won by anyone until Pep came along.

Don’t you know…

Five teams winning it in the first 20 years of the league, with only three teams winning it more than once in that span, and one team winning it 12 times (60% of the time), does mean any club could win it before our period of absolute dominance of 5 league titles in 10 years (50%), with only five teams winning it in that time!

We’ve ruined the Premier League!

 

[PhdWave]

Arsenal losing or drawing today is practically same for us: we would need to win two games to secure the title. They are 16 GD behind us and they are not clawing that back in three games.

 

[kaz7]

Newcastle will be well up for this today, 3 pts and they put a lot of breathing room between them and the scum.

They have to play Brighton too. Our Brighton game is the only game that worries me but it could be over with by then.

There game v brighton is a home , they will win that , ours being away is much harder

 

[SebastianBlue]

Arsenal losing or drawing today is practically same for us: we would need to win two games to secure the title. They are 16 GD behind us and they are not clawing that back in three games.

If the win today we can still only lose one game (until they lose or draw).

If they lose or draw, we can lose two matches and very likely win the league, as our goal difference is far superior and they would only have 3 games to try to make it up, with us having 2 games to pad our GD.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Arsenal losing or drawing today is practically same for us: we would need to win two games to secure the title. They are 16 GD behind us and they are not clawing that back in three games.

It will be an interesting game today. I think at this point it’s all about ‘belief’…..do Arsenal actually believe they are still in a title race ?

We will find out today in how they set up and play at Newcastle. If they are not looking to play quickly and on the front foot it will say a lot about their state of mind….they know it’s a must win game, fail and surely they will think it’s done.

 

[jrb]

Anyone else giving the match a swerve and doing something else Instead? Left my grass to grown on purpose and it needs cutting from 4.30pm onwards. :-)

 

[SebastianBlue]

There game v brighton is a home , they will win that , ours being away is much harder

I’m not sure it is, kaz.

How do teams usually play against us at home versus away?

How does that potentially impact our success?

This is especially the case for Brighton, who are actually quite middling at home based on their results this season.

As it stands their home PPG is 1.875, whilst our away PPG is 2.062. It gets even better when you break it out on recent form.

Last 6 Home Form PPG for Brighton is 2.166, whilst our Last 6 Away Form PPG is 2.66

 

[kaz7]

I’m not sure it is, kaz.

How do teams usually play against us at home versus away?

How does that potentially impact our success?

This is especially the case for Brighton, who are actually quite middling at home based on their results this season.

As it stands their home PPG is 1.875, whilst our away PPG is 2.062. It gets even better when you break it out on recent form.

Last 6 Home Form PPG for Brighton is 2.166, whilst our Last 6 Away Form PPG is 2.66

It stands to reason teams are much more comfortable at home but i take your stats on board

 

[Bluemoonadam]

Can't see arsenal losing today, I think Newcastle bottle it in big games

 

[SebastianBlue]

It stands to reason teams are much more comfortable at home but i take your stats on board

It’s true, and they tend to not want to park the bus, concede 80% of possession to us, and play on the counter in front of their fans, especially top half teams with ambition.

Which opens up the pitch for us more than playing the likes of West Ham, Forest, Leeds, or United at the Etihad.