The Title Race - 2023/24

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Yes so we need to improve on that and I would doubt the bookies would have City as favourite to win at the Emirates, most likely 7/4 or something like that, probably Arsenal 5/4 and the draw similar

opta stats reckons 54 percent chance of a City win and 21 percent for Arsenal so I’m guessing nearer the time we will be favourites but who knows I’m not really a gambling man

 

[jimharri]

Best start to a season under Pep, I believe? Even better than the Centurions campaign. If we can get to the end of sept with 7 wins out of 7, it'll be a nice marker to have laid down.

 

[bridgeno1]

opta stats reckons 54 percent chance of a City win and 21 percent for Arsenal so I’m guessing nearer the time we will be favourites but who knows I’m not really a gambling man

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

 

[dave_blue12]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

You are delusional.

 

[Corky]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

Odds last time for Arsenal at home to City 19/10 and City 5/4

Away to Liverpool they were 11/4 so City would have been around 11/10.

MU were 16/5 when we were away there.

Real Madrid were 11/5 at home.

City were favourite for every single game last year, even Bayern were 17/10 at home.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

Jesus have you seen our results against you home and away for the last like 5 years maybe more
Other than FA Cup Semi I’m not sure you’ve won once
I would suggest we would be favourites

 

[plattlanebenches]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

No one gives a fuck about the charity shield or the tarquins. Fuck off!

 

[117 M34]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

Let me guess, not in your lifetime.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

Love your attempt at a dig.
You really are a prick. How May times have you beaten City in in the last 17 game in all competitions.

You can even count them yourself.

If you have trouble talk you shoes and socks off.

 

[Tarzan41]

I'd imagine those would have been the stats for the Charity Shield game at Wembley, for sure City won't be favourites to win at the Emirates - City would have a 54% chance of winning away at someone like Brentford with the bookies, let alone the Emirates. Away at Arsenal and Liverpool the home team will be favourite with the bookies but unlikely to be odds-on

We have won there in 6 successive seasons. We’re the PL and European champions. It’s not a pre-season friendly. Of course we’ll be favourites.

 

[Alfie Budd]

Best start to a season under Pep, I believe? Even better than the Centurions campaign. If we can get to the end of sept with 7 wins out of 7, it'll be a nice marker to have laid down.

Pep's best start to a PL season was his first at City in 2016-17 when we had a 100% record after six games. We ultimately finished third behind Chelsea and Tottenham.
But we didn't win all of our first three games (let alone four) in any of Pep's five title winning seasons.

 

[jimharri]

Pep's best start to a PL season was his first at City in 2016-17 when we had a 100% record after six games. We ultimately finished third behind Chelsea and Tottenham.
But we didn't win all of our first three games (let alone four) in any of Pep's five title winning seasons.

I stand corrected.

 

[malg]

Pep's best start to a PL season was his first at City in 2016-17 when we had a 100% record after six games. We ultimately finished third behind Chelsea and Tottenham.
But we didn't win all of our first three games (let alone four) in any of Pep's five title winning seasons.

Yep. We're fucked.

 

[bridgeno1]

Love your attempt at a dig.
You really are a prick. How May times have you beaten City in in the last 17 game in all competitions.

You can even count them yourself.

If you have trouble talk you shoes and socks off.

Calm down man, no need to be offensive. I'm just saying that's what I'd imagine the bookies odds would be - you can't compare what the odds would have been 2 seasons ago with what they would be this season as Arsenal finished 2nd not 5th (and 8th the year before)

Anyway let's see when the odds come out but I know City were 8/11 to win in 90 minutes at Wembley meaning the bookies thought it was 58% likely City would win in normal time so based on that how the heck do you think it would be possible that they would be a similar % to win with the bookies but this time the game isn't at Wembley it is at the Emirates? I'm not saying City won't win at the Emirates I'm saying a City win won't be odds on as the most likely outcome and with the bookies the most likely outcome will either be an Arsenal win or a draw.

 

[TravisBickle]

Pep's best start to a PL season was his first at City in 2016-17 when we had a 100% record after six games. We ultimately finished third behind Chelsea and Tottenham.
But we didn't win all of our first three games (let alone four) in any of Pep's five title winning seasons.

And now we’ve signed a player from Wolves!!
We’re doomed ;)

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Calm down man, no need to be offensive. I'm just saying that's what I'd imagine the bookies odds would be - you can't compare what the odds would have been 2 seasons ago with what they would be this season as Arsenal finished 2nd not 5th (and 8th the year before)

Anyway let's see when the odds come out but I know City were 8/11 to win in 90 minutes at Wembley meaning the bookies thought it was 58% likely City would win in normal time so based on that how the heck do you think it would be possible that they would be a similar % to win with the bookies but this time the game isn't at Wembley it is at the Emirates? I'm not saying City won't win at the Emirates I'm saying a City win won't be odds on as the most likely outcome and with the bookies the most likely outcome will either be an Arsenal win or a draw.

These were the odds and five thirty eight predictions from the February home game from last season when Arsenal were still top of the league and it wasn't at all clear that City were starting a run that would result in a treble.

 

[Grassland Blue]

by who? by arsenal fans,, i dont think that is classed as widely regarded.

Let me edify this by not disputing that henry is a top top player and right up there with the best, but we all know that arsenal fans love a poll and routinely skew any online poll by massively voting their own players, but once again i ask the question how do you objectify that henry is absolutely a better player than aguero, because it seems to me that you're argument that he had explosive pace that could win games by himself and you arent wrong but that could be said of multiple players?

How do you judge a striker, it has to be by goals doesnt it?

Drogba should be in the conversation too imo.

 

[bridgeno1]

These were the odds and five thirty eight predictions from the February home game from last season when Arsenal were still top of the league and it wasn't at all clear that City were starting a run that would result in a treble.

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Cool, so the odds were 43% that City would win and 57% that they would not so therefore the probability was that City would not win that game. I'd imagine similar odds this time around (although I did say earlier I thought Arsenal would be 5/4 or so this time and clearly that's miles out.)

 

[Grassland Blue]

It definitely does detract from our achievements when some of our fans say that what we were up against isn’t very good.

I’ve always found it strange when they belittle our challengers to the point where they’re pretty much saying they’re shit. We even had some who said it about 2018-2022 Liverpool, a team that we had to win 14 games on the bounce to beat them to one title, a team that got 99 and 97 points and got to three CL finals, winning one. We came out of that period having won more league titles and more trophies all-in than that great Liverpool side, which makes our success even better.

The league has never been stronger. I think teams down the bottom of the league now would challenge for European spots in the 90s. I think some of United’s title winning teams from the mid-90s would struggle to get into the top half of today’s Prem.

No improvement in the raggies then!

 

[Gio Sugar]