The Tottenham Thread 12/13

I see Levy has handed himself a £400k rise on his wages to £2.2m in their accounts released today.

Highest-paid out there along with Grazidis at Arsenal.

£100m behind us in turnover and £30m down on the previous year after not qualifying for Champs League.
 
AVB ON BASEL:

Andre Villas-Boas says the team will play with ‘ambition and motivation’ with the semi-final s of the Europa League at stake in Basel tonight.

The players have spoken positively ahead of our quarter-final, second leg at the St Jakob Stadium.

The first leg finished 2-2 after we came from 2-0 down at the Lane last week.

Andre admits we can’t afford to ‘repeat the mistakes of the first leg’ but like his players, remains confident we can take our away form of the Premier League – already nine wins on the road this term – into the Europa League and make it into the last four.

“We couldn’t win at home but in European games at this level, at such an advanced stage of the competition, anything can happen.

“It was more through our mistakes that FC Basel were able to take the lead, we don’t normally concede goals like that at home. We did ever so well to get back into the game.

“We are confident but we have to be aware of Basel’s strengths. They will play with great motivation after the first leg. It will be a hard game.

“The squad has proved a lot this season and the players will give everything to try and get us into the semi-final.

“We are at a stage in the competition where we’re only small steps away from the final and this is an inspiration for everyone.”
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I see Levy has handed himself a £400k rise on his wages to £2.2m in their accounts released today.

Highest-paid out there along with Grazidis at Arsenal.

£100m behind us in turnover and £30m down on the previous year after not qualifying for Champs League.

...and season ticket prices at WHL are increasing.

I guess it is easy to increase your wages when you no longer have shareholders to answer to.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I see Levy has handed himself a £400k rise on his wages to £2.2m in their accounts released today.

Highest-paid out there along with Grazidis at Arsenal.

£100m behind us in turnover and £30m down on the previous year after not qualifying for Champs League.
Chairman, CEO's and other such high corporate flyers do tend to reward themselves quite generously, despite the books and accounts saying the profit isn't there to justify the pay rises.

It seems that Levy falls into that category. By any measure a decline in corporate income should not allow him to receive a pay rise.
 
spurspinter1 said:
mcmanus said:
Quick question for Spurs fans. What would you rather, winning the Europa or qualifying for the Champs League?

Would much rather win the Europa, no doubt about it.

It scares me that there's so many Spurs fans that would rather qualify for the CL than win a trophy.

"The game is about glory". For me, glory lies in winning trophies as opposed to being fourth best over the course of the season.

<claps hands>

Couldn't agree more. Winning the FA Cup was great buz. My favourite day as a Blue. I'll remember it until the day I die. We qualified for the CL shortly after and my reaction was "meh" in comparison.

I want you to beat Basle as I think Spurs have respected the competition, unlike many other teams over the years.
 
jollylescott said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I see Levy has handed himself a £400k rise on his wages to £2.2m in their accounts released today.

Highest-paid out there along with Grazidis at Arsenal.

£100m behind us in turnover and £30m down on the previous year after not qualifying for Champs League.
Chairman, CEO's and other such high corporate flyers do tend to reward themselves quite generously, despite the books and accounts saying the profit isn't there to justify the pay rises.

It seems that Levy falls into that category. By any measure a decline in corporate income should not allow him to receive a pay rise.

I'm not sure where these figures have come from - there's nothing on the official Spurs site - but assuming they are correct, I've no problem in Levy getting a rise. Just as long as it's linked to Tottenham's performance on the pitch.

£400,000 is a small price to pay if Spurs get Champions League football next season, estimated to be worth around £45m to £50m in extra revenues.
 
Manc in London said:
spurspinter1 said:
mcmanus said:
Quick question for Spurs fans. What would you rather, winning the Europa or qualifying for the Champs League?

Would much rather win the Europa, no doubt about it.

It scares me that there's so many Spurs fans that would rather qualify for the CL than win a trophy.

"The game is about glory". For me, glory lies in winning trophies as opposed to being fourth best over the course of the season.

<claps hands>

Couldn't agree more. Winning the FA Cup was great buz. My favourite day as a Blue. I'll remember it until the day I die. We qualified for the CL shortly after and my reaction was "meh" in comparison.

I want you to beat Basle as I think Spurs have respected the competition, unlike many other teams over the years.

If by shortly after you mean 4 days before?
 
jollylescott said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I see Levy has handed himself a £400k rise on his wages to £2.2m in their accounts released today.

Highest-paid out there along with Grazidis at Arsenal.

£100m behind us in turnover and £30m down on the previous year after not qualifying for Champs League.
Chairman, CEO's and other such high corporate flyers do tend to reward themselves quite generously, despite the books and accounts saying the profit isn't there to justify the pay rises.

It seems that Levy falls into that category. By any measure a decline in corporate income should not allow him to receive a pay rise.

I think it's unreasonable to give yourself a rise while increasing ticket prices, not investing in a quality striker when one was clearly needed and approaching government with a begging bowl asking for funding relating to the building of a new stadium. Not to mention the decrease in revenue.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:08 pm --<br /><br />
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Manc in London said:
spurspinter1 said:
Would much rather win the Europa, no doubt about it.

It scares me that there's so many Spurs fans that would rather qualify for the CL than win a trophy.

"The game is about glory". For me, glory lies in winning trophies as opposed to being fourth best over the course of the season.

<claps hands>

Couldn't agree more. Winning the FA Cup was great buz. My favourite day as a Blue. I'll remember it until the day I die. We qualified for the CL shortly after and my reaction was "meh" in comparison.

I want you to beat Basle as I think Spurs have respected the competition, unlike many other teams over the years.

If by shortly after you mean 4 days before?

Haha I forgot / got confused.

Regardless, the sentiments are the same. In fact, being at Wembley to see us beat United gave me more satisfaction.
 
Manc in London said:
jollylescott said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I see Levy has handed himself a £400k rise on his wages to £2.2m in their accounts released today.

Highest-paid out there along with Grazidis at Arsenal.

£100m behind us in turnover and £30m down on the previous year after not qualifying for Champs League.
Chairman, CEO's and other such high corporate flyers do tend to reward themselves quite generously, despite the books and accounts saying the profit isn't there to justify the pay rises.

It seems that Levy falls into that category. By any measure a decline in corporate income should not allow him to receive a pay rise.

I think it's unreasonable to give yourself a rise while increasing ticket prices, not investing in a quality striker when one was clearly needed and approaching government with a begging bowl asking for funding relating to the building of a new stadium. Not to mention the decrease in revenue.

Hang on a minute.

The "funding" Levy was after related to the local transport infrastructure, such as road schemes and public transport.

These by rights should be funded by the relevant public bodies such as the London Borough of Haringey and Transport for London.

Spurs were originally expected to cough-up for these improvements out of our own pocket.

Not one penny of these funds relates to the cost of redeveloping White Hart Lane stadium.
 
Manc in London said:
spurspinter1 said:
mcmanus said:
Quick question for Spurs fans. What would you rather, winning the Europa or qualifying for the Champs League?

Would much rather win the Europa, no doubt about it.

It scares me that there's so many Spurs fans that would rather qualify for the CL than win a trophy.

"The game is about glory". For me, glory lies in winning trophies as opposed to being fourth best over the course of the season.

<claps hands>

Couldn't agree more. Winning the FA Cup was great buz. My favourite day as a Blue. I'll remember it until the day I die. We qualified for the CL shortly after and my reaction was "meh" in comparison.

I want you to beat Basle as I think Spurs have respected the competition, unlike many other teams over the years.

The second we won the cup it just felt amazing, loved it plus that fucking banner was coming down.
 
Neither Boris nor LB Haringey have an obligation to fund the infrastructure changes. Reasonableness is another issue.

IMO Spurs are going to increase revenue so should therefore pay for the changes.
 
Ours was built for another event and then converted at great cost to us to be a football stadium and we still pay a lease fee to the council. if you were making that argument to a west ham fan they can rightly make that claim, however if spurs are expecting apurpose built stadium paid for the by the council to be built just for them that is wrong and should be funded by their own monies!
 
mancboy123 said:
Ours was built for another event and then converted at great cost to us to be a football stadium and we still pay a lease fee to the council. if you were making that argument to a west ham fan they can rightly make that claim, however if spurs are expecting apurpose built stadium paid for the by the council to be built just for them that is wrong and should be funded by their own monies!

Jesus wept!

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Spurs will pay for the stadium themselves. They will probably want someone to help with naming rights. They want spurs to invest in some transport links which should be the councils job really. One of the worst places in london but the other councils didn't mind helping out west ham and arsenal with any transport or stadium issues. I don't trust lammy much, got caught with his fingers in the till before.

I think it'll be another 5 years before we see anything happen. At least they'll be a sainsburys to shop in!!
 
mancboy123 said:
Ours was built for another event and then converted at great cost to us to be a football stadium and we still pay a lease fee to the council. if you were making that argument to a west ham fan they can rightly make that claim, however if spurs are expecting apurpose built stadium paid for the by the council to be built just for them that is wrong and should be funded by their own monies!

You have completely missed the point here pal. Perhaps my comparison was a little off. What Spurs want is pretty much identical to the Metrolink being extended so it's right next to our ground. Spurs wanted the council to pay for this, rather than it all coming out of their back pocket. Which is fair enough, I say.
 
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
You have completely missed the point here pal. Perhaps my comparison was a little off. What Spurs want is pretty much identical to the Metrolink being extended so it's right next to our ground. Spurs wanted the council to pay for this, rather than it all coming out of their back pocket. Which is fair enough, I say.

I think it is you who has missed the point.

There were already plans to extend the Metrolink east of Manchester. There was talk of this being done when the plans were first drawn up for the Metrolink in the late 80's. Later when more detailed plans for the ML were developed it made sense for it to go via The Etihad because TGM want to increase footfall on the trams. More passengers -> more revenue.

Spurs want TfL, the Mayor's office, LB Haringey and others to fund a whole raft of infrastructural changes so that it makes it, primarily, easier for more Spurs fans to go and spend more money watching Tottenham Hotspur. You do realise that Haringey is one of the poorest areas in the country. Do you actually think the LB Haringey should spend £9m in attempt to improve the revenue streams for Tottenham?

Lest we forget that Daniel Levy basically threatened to move Spurs from N17 if they did not get assistance.

A totally different comparison.
 
Arsenal's transportation got funded nearly 60m. They said overtime they would recoup it. I'm sure extra staff and fans using the transportation they would easily recoup 9m? I'm sure lammy has a lot of that in his slush fund. Of course spurs would benefit so would the local economy.
 
Spurs

Friedel

Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Naughton

Dempsey, Parker

Holtby, Dembele, Sigurdsson

Adebayor

Subs: Lloris, Assou-Ekotto, Caulker, Livermore, Huddlestone, Carroll, Coulthirst


Basel

Sommer

Joo Ho, P. Degen, Dragovic, Schär

Serey Die, Stocker, F. Frei

Salah, Elneny, Streller

Subs: Vailati, Sauro, Steinhofer, D. Degen, Diaz, Cabral, A. Frei
 
THFC6061 said:
Spurs

Friedel

Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Naughton

Dempsey, Parker

Holtby, Dembele, Sigurdsson

Adebayor

Subs: Lloris, Assou-Ekotto, Caulker, Livermore, Huddlestone, Carroll, Coulthirst


Basel

Sommer

Joo Ho, P. Degen, Dragovic, Schär

Serey Die, Stocker, F. Frei

Salah, Elneny, Streller

Subs: Vailati, Sauro, Steinhofer, D. Degen, Diaz, Cabral, A. Frei

I always get nervous seeing naughton at the back. Our left side will have to be switched on. Shaq is on the bench, would love to see him get a run out
 

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