The Tottenham Thread (Merged)

[yido in briefs]

I'd be surprised. AEG would have to pay around £250m for Spurs and spend about £400m on the ground. A substantial transfer kitty would be £50-100m. They would be looking at c£700m. That's a huge amount of money for a club that is not a big name and has a lower profile than City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and United. Ashley struggled to sell NUFC with a readymade, large ground for a third of the price.

Seriously?

When did this happen?

Or are you talking about your new found fanbase in the UAE? ;)

Never in my lifetime have City had a bigger profile than Spurs and I don't see that changing just yet.

Spurs are a very attractive proposition for potential investors. We are the only 'big' club (or at least top 6 club) yet to be taken over by foreign investors. We have 30 odd thousand on a season ticket waiting list, our finances are in good order, we are based in London so can attract good foriegn players etc etc

I don't know exactly what your problem with Spurs is Manc. Aren't you the guy who used to post on Glory Glory? Why would you do that if you have such contmept for the club?

 

[Barcon]

I'd be surprised. AEG would have to pay around £250m for Spurs and spend about £400m on the ground. A substantial transfer kitty would be £50-100m. They would be looking at c£700m. That's a huge amount of money for a club that is not a big name and has a lower profile than City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and United. Ashley struggled to sell NUFC with a readymade, large ground for a third of the price.

Seriously?

When did this happen?

Or are you talking about your new found fanbase in the UAE? ;)

Never in my lifetime have City had a bigger profile than Spurs and I don't see that changing just yet.

Spurs are a very attractive proposition for potential investors. We are the only 'big' club (or at least top 6 club) yet to be taken over by foreign investors. We have 30 odd thousand on a season ticket waiting list, our finances are in good order, we are based in London so can attract good foriegn players etc etc

I don't know exactly what your problem with Spurs is Manc. Aren't you the guy who used to post on Glory Glory? Why would you do that if you have such contmept for the club?

How can you possibly believe that we don't have a bigger profile than you? Regardless of whether or not anybody knew who we were five years ago, everybody sure as fuck knows us now.

 

[Bobby Taylor's Pub Team]

I'd be surprised. AEG would have to pay around £250m for Spurs and spend about £400m on the ground. A substantial transfer kitty would be £50-100m. They would be looking at c£700m. That's a huge amount of money for a club that is not a big name and has a lower profile than City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and United. Ashley struggled to sell NUFC with a readymade, large ground for a third of the price.

Seriously?

When did this happen?

Or are you talking about your new found fanbase in the UAE? ;)

Never in my lifetime have City had a bigger profile than Spurs and I don't see that changing just yet.

Spurs are a very attractive proposition for potential investors. We are the only 'big' club (or at least top 6 club) yet to be taken over by foreign investors. We have 30 odd thousand on a season ticket waiting list, our finances are in good order, we are based in London so can attract good foriegn players etc etc

I don't know exactly what your problem with Spurs is Manc. Aren't you the guy who used to post on Glory Glory? Why would you do that if you have such contmept for the club?

You've taken offence there at a fairly innocuous statement. It's true that City's profile is huge nowadays, and we're seemingly linked to every heavyweight on the planet, from playing staff to admin/management staff. If you believe Spurs have a similar hyped profile, then fair play to you.

Nowhere in that post did he show contempt for Spurs, nor did he imply Spurs wasn't in any way an attractive and worthy club to investors.

 

[jonmcity]

Good look we need some competition with the rags only buying third rate hopefuls. You would have to change your views on money ruining football though.

 

[yido in briefs]

And do you honestly think that people around the world who follow football don't know who Spurs are? :)

It just seemed strange that he'd throw City so casually with the traditional 'big 4' who have has sustained success and exposure in the Champs League for at least a ten year period. City, despite spending more money on wages and players over a period of two or three years than any other team in the history of football couldn't even make it out of their group stage!

As far as profile goes, I think City are on the same level as Spurs; clearly not as well known as the 'big 4' but well on their way to establishing themselves in that bracket.

 

[moomba]

City has a much bigger profile than Spurs at the moment.

That might be hard for them to take but it's true.

 

[yido in briefs]

You've taken offence there at a fairly innocuous statement. It's true that City's profile is huge nowadays, and we're seemingly linked to every heavyweight on the planet, from playing staff to admin/management staff. If you believe Spurs have a similar hyped profile, then fair play to you.

Cmon man....So I suppose teams like Anzhi have a bigger profile than Spurs aswell because they are linked with every big player under the sun?

How many City players were voted in the UEFA XI for 2010/2011 season?

None is the answer, which is one less Spurs who apparently have no profile outside of England.......


Oh, and come on Villa!

 

[stony]

Google thinks we currently have a higher profile.

Manchester City About 343,000,000 results (0.13 seconds)

Tottenham Hotspur About 56,800,000 results (0.16 seconds)

 

[yido in briefs]

Google thinks we currently have a higher profile.

Manchester City About 343,000,000 results (0.13 seconds)

Tottenham Hotspur About 56,800,000 results (0.16 seconds)

Lol, I'll let you have a little think for yourself why MANCHESTER City would chuck up far more results than 'Tottenham Hotspur' (commonly referred to as Spurs btw)

I don't doubt that City have carved out a decent profile for themselves over the past couple of years but you're no-where near the level of the 'big 4'.

Even if you are ahead of us in terms of worldwide profile, outside yourselves and the 'big 4' there is no other English club with a bigger profile than Spurs.

 

[stony]

Google thinks we currently have a higher profile.

Manchester City About 343,000,000 results (0.13 seconds)

Tottenham Hotspur About 56,800,000 results (0.16 seconds)

Lol, I'll let you have a little think for yourself why MANCHESTER City would chuck up far more results than 'Tottenham Hotspur' (commonly referred to as Spurs btw)

I don't doubt that City have carved out a decent profile for themselves over the past couple of years but you're no-where near the level of the 'big 4'.

Even if you are ahead of us in terms of worldwide profile, outside yourselves and the 'big 4' there is no other English club with a bigger profile than Spurs.

Spurs About 79,500,000 results (0.15 seconds)

Add them together and it still doesn't come anywhere near.

 

[Castiel]

As far as profile goes, I think City are on the same level as Spurs; clearly not as well known as the 'big 4' but well on their way to establishing themselves in that bracket.

The difference is, Spurs are punching above their weight, City aren't.

 

[yido in briefs]

Google thinks we currently have a higher profile.

Manchester City About 343,000,000 results (0.13 seconds)

Tottenham Hotspur About 56,800,000 results (0.16 seconds)

Lol, I'll let you have a little think for yourself why MANCHESTER City would chuck up far more results than 'Tottenham Hotspur' (commonly referred to as Spurs btw)

I don't doubt that City have carved out a decent profile for themselves over the past couple of years but you're no-where near the level of the 'big 4'.

Even if you are ahead of us in terms of worldwide profile, outside yourselves and the 'big 4' there is no other English club with a bigger profile than Spurs.

Spurs About 79,500,000 results (0.15 seconds)

Add them together and it still doesn't come anywhere near.

So....if by 'profile' we mean transfer fiends who bash themselves off over the latest rumour then City have pretty much a bigger profile than anyone.

If however, 'profile' is related to what you do on the pitch and, perhaps more importantly, how you do it City, imo, are only marginally ahead of Spurs in terms of global appeal., You may well widen that gap in the future, if the FFP is enforced by UEFA we may close it, who knows.

FYI AC Milan chucks up 119,000,000 results. I take you're willing concede that your profile isn't even half of that of AC Milan's?

In that case you have to concede that Google results are by no means the be all and end all when it comes to determining profile and worldwide appeal.<br /><br />-- Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:12 pm --<br /><br />

As far as profile goes, I think City are on the same level as Spurs; clearly not as well known as the 'big 4' but well on their way to establishing themselves in that bracket.

The difference is, Spurs are punching above their weight, City aren't.

!?!?!?!?!?!?

350 million pound losses over a two year period would suggest that quite the opposite is true!

 

[Bobby Taylor's Pub Team]

You've taken offence there at a fairly innocuous statement. It's true that City's profile is huge nowadays, and we're seemingly linked to every heavyweight on the planet, from playing staff to admin/management staff. If you believe Spurs have a similar hyped profile, then fair play to you.

Cmon man....So I suppose teams like Anzhi have a bigger profile than Spurs aswell because they are linked with every big player under the sun?

How many City players were voted in the UEFA XI for 2010/2011 season?

None is the answer, which is one less Spurs who apparently have no profile outside of England.......


Oh, and come on Villa!

But are they (Anzhi)? Of course they're not, which leaves your point mostly pointless. As for the UEFA XI comment, that's about as relevant as top trumps.

 

[stony]

Lol, I'll let you have a little think for yourself why MANCHESTER City would chuck up far more results than 'Tottenham Hotspur' (commonly referred to as Spurs btw)

I don't doubt that City have carved out a decent profile for themselves over the past couple of years but you're no-where near the level of the 'big 4'.

Even if you are ahead of us in terms of worldwide profile, outside yourselves and the 'big 4' there is no other English club with a bigger profile than Spurs.

Spurs About 79,500,000 results (0.15 seconds)

Add them together and it still doesn't come anywhere near.

So....if by 'profile' we mean transfer fiends who bash themselves off over the latest rumour then City have pretty much a bigger profile than anyone.

If however, 'profile' is related to what you do on the pitch and, perhaps more importantly, how you do it City, imo, are only marginally ahead of Spurs in terms of global appeal., You may well widen that gap in the future, if the FFP is enforced by UEFA we may close it, who knows.

FYI AC Milan chucks up 119,000,000 results. I take you're willing concede that your profile isn't even half of that of AC Milan's?

In that case you have to concede that Google results are by no means the be all and end all when it comes to determining profile and worldwide appeal.

Actually, according to your figures, our profile is more than twice that of AC Milan.

 

[yido in briefs]

Actually, according to your figures, our profile is more than twice that of AC Milan.

Well, mate, that is kind of my point. You can't for one second claim that City have a bigger profile than AC Milan, I would have thought that would be a given when one team has won seven Champs League's and the other team has won none.....

If you accept that fact you also have to accept that Google results do not tell the whole story, or even part of the story, when it comes to determining worldwide appeal.

 

[mcmanus]

You've taken offence there at a fairly innocuous statement. It's true that City's profile is huge nowadays, and we're seemingly linked to every heavyweight on the planet, from playing staff to admin/management staff. If you believe Spurs have a similar hyped profile, then fair play to you.

Cmon man....So I suppose teams like Anzhi have a bigger profile than Spurs aswell because they are linked with every big player under the sun?

How many City players were voted in the UEFA XI for 2010/2011 season?

None is the answer, which is one less Spurs who apparently have no profile outside of England.......


Oh, and come on Villa!

Someone's touch a nerve.

Of course City have a higher profile. Fuck it Mario's antics alone make more noise around the world than bloody Spurs.

 

[Castiel]

!?!?!?!?!?!?

350 million pound losses over a two year period would suggest that quite the opposite is true!

How is that relevant? City have spent the money and now they're getting the status. Like Chelsea did. Like Blackburn did. Though Blackburn couldn't sustain it and stabilise. Their global fan base will grow and the losses will lessen, like Chelsea's now compared to 2003. Spurs have been quite fortunate on a grand scheme over the last few years with the imminent demise of Liverpool and now Arsenal allowing them to take advantage. But I highly doubt it will last.

Also I hear about this massive waiting list for season tickets a lot. But I've never actually seen proof. You'd think WHL would be sold out every week.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What galls a lot of City fans, myself included, is the way that Spurs fans sneer at what a small club we were before the takeover.

The truth is that outside utd, Liverpool and Arsenal there is a rump of clubs who call all call themselves big: Chelsea, Spurs, Villa, Newcastle, City and Everton by the skin of their teeth are all similar sized clubs - that is big clubs. There are many ways to measure the size of a club the most obvious being attendances and trophy haul.

The fact that we have won the league title more recently than Spurs and had higher attendances for around a decade renders any suggestion that we are a 'nothing' club compared to Tottenham as nothing short of absurd.

 

[yido in briefs]

But are they (Anzhi)? Of course they're not, which leaves your point mostly pointless. As for the UEFA XI comment, that's about as relevant as top trumps.

Again, this is the point I'm trying to make.

It's called logical deduction.

You made the point that because you're linked with big players that means you have a bigger profile than Spurs.

I made the point re Anzhi and asked does that mean they have a bigger profile too since they also are linked with big players.

If the answer is no then it follows as a consequence that being linked with big players doesn't necessarily equal a big global profile.

-- Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:27 pm --

What galls a lot of City fans, myself included, is the way that Spurs fans sneer at what a small club we were before the takeover.

Not me mate. Spurs and City were very similar even before the takeover. You spent some time in the third division which is a bit of a blot on your copybook but we haven't won the league in 50 years which is a considerable blot on ours...

 

[stony]

Actually, according to your figures, our profile is more than twice that of AC Milan.

Well, mate, that is kind of my point. You can't for one second claim that City have a bigger profile than AC Milan, I would have thought that would be a given when one team has won seven Champs League's and the other team has won none.....

If you accept that fact you also have to accept that Google results do not tell the whole story, or even part of the story, when it comes to determining worldwide appeal.

Are you sure you're not a Scouser ? You seem to confusing history with profile. I doubt there are many clubs in the world with our profile. Everything we do is news, every time someone at City farts, there are tabloid journolists waiting to record the sound and describe the smell in the next super soar-away edition. We even get mentioned in the House FFS.
We're big news and have been since the takeover. Nothing to do with history or what we've won or worldwide appeal. We are talking about profile and ours is about as high as it gets.
We even get insecure fans of other clubs coming on here to plead their case. Ask yourself why you are here and why we're not all on glory glory, telling everyone who will listen that we are just as big as you. The simple answer, is that we don't need to.