The UK Smoking Ban

[denislawsbackheel]

Odd how it is precincts that now smell like old ashtrays.

 

[shadygiz]

again, this is crap. Yes there are stringent processes in place for asbestos, but they are not entirely policed and left open to personal experience, usually too late for the inexperienced person who stumbles across the asbestos during their works.

and i'm talking about airborne asbestos that has been allowed to escape into the atmsophere and air we breathe; this is non-controllable once allowed to escape to atmosphere....over the last 10-15 years, the north west has seen a massive rise in asbestos polution in the air, mainly due to most of the old cotton mills being either demolished or renovated

and i can almost garauntee that within the next 20 years the manchester region will see a sharp increase in Mesothelioma related deaths

fact, but dont let that get in the way of a good put down

In actual fact absestos related conditions are due to peak in about four years and then fall, and the reason it will decline after that is due to controls on its use in conjunction with much improved record keeping both via legislation.

the asbestos is already in the air...no amount of regulation will shift that mate it will only stop the levels increasing

 

[Meester Pees]

it's brilliant, should be extended to any public area and any area where there are children present.

Why?

Are you going to agree to not drive your car where there are children present?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

it's brilliant, should be extended to any public area and any area where there are children present.

Why?

Are you going to agree to not drive your car where there are children present?

nope, cars have benefits, smoking doesn't.

 

[Meester Pees]

Why?

Are you going to agree to not drive your car where there are children present?

nope, cars have benefits, smoking doesn't.

In other words hipocrisy in action - Cars benefit you, so therefore they're alright?

I don't drive & I don't smoke & I'll say for definate, from what I've observed, car fumes pose a bigger risk to the health of children (my niece & her peers) than do cig fumes.

Still, fuck that, look down on smokers, the moral high ground is yours - And your own conscience has the luxury of remaining unexamined. Must be nice to have your moral flag planted in such an unassailable position.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Car fumes? How about:

Public Service Vehicles (Conditions of Fitness, Equipment, Use and Certification) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2005/3128

Public Service Vehicles (Conditions of Fitness, Equipment, Use and Certification) Regulations 1981/257

Local Authorities Act 1996

Air Quality Standards Regulations 2010/1001

Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2010/2060

Road Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2009/717

Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2009/1806

Motor Vehicles (Type Approval) (Great Britain) Regulations 1984/981

Motor Cycle Silencer and Exhaust Systems Regulations 1995/2370

Motor Vehicles (Type Approval) (Great Britain) (Amendment) Regulations 1994/2190


I've got a load more if you want them.

Asbestos anyone?

And what?

Still gotta breathe the fumes in, regulated or not... And show me a single road on which there's no cars allowed?

Simple truth is - Car fumes are far more pernicious than cig fumes. Acknowledge it or not, it's still the truth.

-- Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:44 pm --

lol...an mot every year does the trick then??

all the asbestos regulations you stipulate relate entirely to asbestos found within buildings and the control of that asbestos to prevent it's escape into the atmosphere

you're totally missing the point mate.....the asbestos has ALREADY been released into the air

This guy's got a point - once asbestos has been broken, all bets are off.

What an absurd argument.

It's like saying murder shouldn't be illegal because people are still being murdered.

And show you a single road where cars are not allowed? Happy to once you show me a road where smoking is banned .

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

nope, cars have benefits, smoking doesn't.

In other words hipocrisy in action - Cars benefit you, so therefore they're alright?

I don't drive & I don't smoke & I'll say for definate, from what I've observed, car fumes pose a bigger risk to the health of children (my niece & her peers) than do cig fumes.

Still, fuck that, look down on smokers, the moral high ground is yours - And your own conscience has the luxury of remaining unexamined. Must be nice to have your moral flag planted in such an unassailable position.

yhp, let's ban all fumes and see if your niece and her peers survive for more than a few fucking weeks.

oh, thought not.

smoking has no benefits to anybody and can be eradicated(and should be). Cars are already being made more energy efficient and are a million times more useful.

priorities, you can't get a perfect world, but you can try your best to improve it.

 

[WNRH]

Need to take it further & ban smoking in the entrance to bars.
Should have a designated area like a greenhouse with no windows so they can all choke to death.

They need to go further than that and ban smoking full stop. Disgusting habit that has no benefits whatsoever. The move to put them under the counter and in plain packaging is fantastic.

 

[Meester Pees]

And what?

Still gotta breathe the fumes in, regulated or not... And show me a single road on which there's no cars allowed?

Simple truth is - Car fumes are far more pernicious than cig fumes. Acknowledge it or not, it's still the truth.

-- Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:44 pm --




This guy's got a point - once asbestos has been broken, all bets are off.

What an absurd argument.

It's like saying murder shouldn't be illegal because people are still being murdered.

And show you a single road where cars are not allowed? Happy to once you show me a road where smoking is banned .

Don't be stupid - Tell me how it's alright to single out smokers when we're all breathing in god knows what kinda crap? Fairly simple question.


And no, the asbestos argument isn't absurd - Once a piece of blue asbestos is broken, all results of safety studies go outta the window.It becomes incredibly toxic.

And no, don't try to say car emissions and smoking emissions are the same thing coz they simply aren't.<br /><br />-- Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:15 pm --<br /><br />

let's ban all fumes and see if your niece and her peers survive for more than a few fucking weeks.

oh, thought not.

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priorities, you can't get a perfect world, but you can try your best to improve it.

Why wouldn't they survive? We can handle it without cars - Just coz you're soft and can't well, don't blame me.

Priorities, eh? The world would be improved...Nah, forget it.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

What an absurd argument.

It's like saying murder shouldn't be illegal because people are still being murdered.

And show you a single road where cars are not allowed? Happy to once you show me a road where smoking is banned .

Don't be stupid - Tell me how it's alright to single out smokers when we're all breathing in god knows what kinda crap? Fairly simple question.


And no, the asbestos argument isn't absurd - Once a piece of blue asbestos is broken, all results of safety studies go outta the window.It becomes incredibly toxic.

And no, don't try to say car emissions and smoking emissions are the same thing coz they simply aren't.

-- Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:15 pm --

let's ban all fumes and see if your niece and her peers survive for more than a few fucking weeks.

oh, thought not.

.

priorities, you can't get a perfect world, but you can try your best to improve it.

Why wouldn't they survive? We can handle it without cars - Just coz you're soft and can't well, don't blame me.

Priorities, eh? The world would be improved...Nah, forget it.

did I say just cars?

think before you type, ta.

would the world be improved? exactly.