The unemployment fudge

And I am supposed you are sat there in your ivory tower having found your job back before this shit shower came in.
The unfortunate fact with your political stance is that the alternative shower of shit always, always, ensures
there are more unemployed than before they came in.
So you're more likely to be unemployed even if you're prepared to do any job.
 
Yes, I agree, to a point, 6 weeks, or even 3 months may be acceptable, what isn't is claiming benefits indefinitely,
hoping your preferred employer appears. You may well be in a job that's you're unsuited to, it's a fact the vast majority
of folk are doing jobs because they have to, not because they want to.
Your predicament is probably the worst, particularly if you're of a certain age, discrimination is rife, but although illegal,
is impossible to police, so I do have sympathy.

It may well have changed, but when I went through this 15 years ago, the job centre people were quite explicit that I was allowed to spend time searching for the right job, but after a while (it may have been three months, I'm not sure) I then had to take any job. Someone with more recent experience will be able to say how it is now.
 
In terms of teaching the workload is just there.It’s largely driven by fear of bad results, which are hugely hard to determine with new exams. Poor results ususally leads to Ofsted. If that doesn’t go well there’s pressure on, usually more work. There are also biting cuts with teaching assistants, admin support cut to the bone, class sizes up and contact time at its maximum.
I don't want to derail the thread, but let's just say that the increase in workload has not been primarily due to an increase in tasks directly related to improving classroom teaching, and has been far more about keeping records and gathering evidence to show that you/the school, and by extension the government, are doing a good job. Take a relatively minor example, but many teachers have to write 'verbal feedback given' if they spoke to a student about a piece of work. That's not for the benefit of the student or the teacher, it's just so that if a headteacher, or worse, and Ofsted inspector shows up, the teacher can show that they're giving feedback. In primary school, teachers are having teaching assistants not helping the children, but instead taking photos of them working so they have 'evidence' that learning is taking place. What it essentially comes down to is the government and Ofsted essentially putting it on individual teachers to do their job for them, gathering evidence on the quality of learning taking place.
 
The other common one is offering fixed-term contracts for jobs that should obviously be permanent, and then making the people who have the jobs reapply for them every year, basically allowing the company to change the terms to whatever they want in a way that they wouldn't get away with a full-time, permanent employee.

Some people don't have an issue working this way.
What they do have a problem with is how the government have fudged it to get the best of both worlds in this situation.

Depending upon how the contracts are written you can be considered as 'self-employed' (so not eligible to usual protections & benefits of an employee) in Employment Law, whilst at the same time deemed an 'employee' in Tax Law (so have to pay full tax & NI, and not being able to claim expenses etc).
 
Because it turns out that if you let people starve then they generally turn to crime, it effects the prosperity of their children and the state as a whole becomes overburdened and suffers.

Because they have a job that they aren't suited for and employers aren't stupid.

So the way to get people into work best is to keep them out of it until they feel like it? The job of welfare isn't to keep you going until you decide to start working, it is to cushion you until you can find something to keep you going yourself.

In my case I signed on after uni, spent two weeks on the dole and hated it so decided to take a job in a supermarket working nights. It wasn't ideal and was tough but it paid okay and after a few months I found a job leading into the industry I wanted to work in.

I don't understand why in any case staying on the dole and earning less money and having no job at all is the better option? We've all been there and done crap jobs and never been worse off for it.
 
Similar thing happened to me. I was turned down by one site of the company, got a job at another site off the same company then the site where I was working shut down and I ended up working at the site I originally applied to (via a couple of other sites)!

From what you've said previously, I think we work for the same company.

Back to graduate jobs - it all depends on the course done at uni. A degree in history will put you in the same pool with 80% of other graduates with only the ones with the highest grades and ability to present themselves well will get a decent job. A degree in something more vocational such as engineering is more likely to get you a job that you want.

Was the site that was shutdown a little south of Manchester and fairly near the airport lets say?

If so then we probably do!

I am a lot more north west and by a river... :)
 
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I don't want to derail the thread, but let's just say that the increase in workload has not been primarily due to an increase in tasks directly related to improving classroom teaching, and has been far more about keeping records and gathering evidence to show that you/the school, and by extension the government, are doing a good job. Take a relatively minor example, but many teachers have to write 'verbal feedback given' if they spoke to a student about a piece of work. That's not for the benefit of the student or the teacher, it's just so that if a headteacher, or worse, and Ofsted inspector shows up, the teacher can show that they're giving feedback. In primary school, teachers are having teaching assistants not helping the children, but instead taking photos of them working so they have 'evidence' that learning is taking place. What it essentially comes down to is the government and Ofsted essentially putting it on individual teachers to do their job for them, gathering evidence on the quality of learning taking place.
Exactly. A lot of second guessing Ofsted and the new exams.
 
So the way to get people into work best is to keep them out of it until they feel like it? The job of welfare isn't to keep you going until you decide to start working, it is to cushion you until you can find something to keep you going yourself.

In my case I signed on after uni, spent two weeks on the dole and hated it so decided to take a job in a supermarket working nights. It wasn't ideal and was tough but it paid okay and after a few months I found a job leading into the industry I wanted to work in.

I don't understand why in any case staying on the dole and earning less money and having no job at all is the better option? We've all been there and done crap jobs and never been worse off for it.
My experience was more similar to the people who have already posted. I applied for any old job after uni because I needed to save a bit of cash and I lived somewhere that had no jobs in the industry I studied for. So I applied to every supermarket and shop in town and heard nothing from any of them, despite having a bit of retail experience before uni. I suspect that they didn't expect me to stick around very long.
 
Some people don't have an issue working this way.
What they do have a problem with is how the government have fudged it to get the best of both worlds in this situation.

Depending upon how the contracts are written you can be considered as 'self-employed' (so not eligible to usual protections & benefits of an employee) in Employment Law, whilst at the same time deemed an 'employee' in Tax Law (so have to pay full tax & NI, and not being able to claim expenses etc).

In my ignorance, I didn't realise that. Read your post and thought "surely not?", looked it up, and bloody hell. That seems like a pretty easy fix for them to make to stop that kind of piss take.
 

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