The Westminster Paedophile Dossier

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Keith Vaz: bastion of moral rectitude.

 

[Plaything of the gods]

I think this could open up a whole can of worms. The way that the current political parties are squirming suggests that if the truth comes out it could do very, very serious damage to the reputation of the 'government' as a body rather than currently.

The reputation of the political system is shot anyway with this after the Iraq, expenses, media-cosying, etc scandals.

We know there are nonces and protectors of nonces in the highest echelons of government.

We know this because they have been destroying documents, denying rumours and obfuscating - not to mention criminal acts like burglary and potentially murder of whistleblower Iain Mills MP, and alleged murders of young boys.

If our political elite were decent folk they would have ordered an immediate investigation of nonce allegations. That they haven't can only mean that they aren't, or at least the decent folk amongst them haven't stood up and been counted yet.

Parliament, which moderates the agenda, has two options: to hunker down and hope it all blows over; or to fess up and clear out all the shit. This won't blow over. If parliament doesn't sort this out the political system in this country will lose its last vestige of respect and the next time rioting breaks out and parliament starts pronouncing on it the country will turn round to it and issue a massive "FUCK OFF, HYPOCRITES!"

But anyone willing to stand up and publicly denounce the nonces will command huge respect.

 

[ali benarbia's studs]

Keith Vaz: bastion of moral rectitude.

assitude attitude?

 

[Plaything of the gods]

Danczuk alleges that Brittan was handed a dossier on the paedophile ring but it was never acted upon and susequently it vanished

Am I reading this correctly? A "dossier" which, together with 19 other high profile names, includes the name of this senior politician (Brittan) on a list of visitors to a property apparently used by a group of potential child abusers and paedophiles is given to......... the said politician (ie Brittan) for him to action?

Shock and fucking surprise - the information subsequently disappears!

I'm not definite on the chronology but I think that the 'elite VIPs' list was written some years after Dickens had handed his dossier to Brittan.

The investigation was first set up under conditions of secrecy. The Independent reported that it focused on claims of sexual abuse and the grooming of children, involving parties for gay men at the former Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane, close to Barnes Common in south west London, during the late 1970s.

The guest house was run and managed by Carole Kasir between 1979-1982, who died in 1990 at the age of 47. A party was raided by the police in 1982, following which 12 boys gave evidence that they had been abused by men at the house. Kasir was convicted of the charge of running a disorderly house, but allegations of abuse against children, and a subsequent reported investigation in 2003, were apparently not pursued. Two friends of Kasir gave astonishing evidence to the inquest of her death about alleged sexual abuse of children at the guest house

Nine officers raided the North London home of former child protection worker Mary Moss after she initially declined to co-operate with the investigation.

Documents and a laptop were seized. Ms Moss later handed over a further 19 files she had hidden in a neighbour’s shed.

The papers include a list of men who went to sex parties in the 80s at the Elm Guest House, Barnes, South West London.

 

[foxy]

Statement in the Commons today.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think this could open up a whole can of worms. The way that the current political parties are squirming suggests that if the truth comes out it could do very, very serious damage to the reputation of the 'government' as a body rather than currently.

The reputation of the political system is shot anyway with this after the Iraq, expenses, media-cosying, etc scandals.

We know there are nonces and protectors of nonces in the highest echelons of government.

We know this because they have been destroying documents, denying rumours and obfuscating - not to mention criminal acts like burglary and potentially murder of whistleblower Iain Mills MP, and alleged murders of young boys.

If our political elite were decent folk they would have ordered an immediate investigation of nonce allegations. That they haven't can only mean that they aren't, or at least the decent folk amongst them haven't stood up and been counted yet.

Parliament, which moderates the agenda, has two options: to hunker down and hope it all blows over; or to fess up and clear out all the shit. This won't blow over. If parliament doesn't sort this out the political system in this country will lose its last vestige of respect and the next time rioting breaks out and parliament starts pronouncing on it the country will turn round to it and issue a massive "FUCK OFF, HYPOCRITES!"

But anyone willing to stand up and publicly denounce the nonces will command huge respect.

I've said for a while the circumstances are ripe for a new political party, bankrolled by a billionaire. There's definitely a sense that the old certainties around our political landscape are starting to inexorably shift. Societies need these upheavals from time to time. It's probably healthy, on balance, but there are risks, of course.

 

[andyhinch]

I think this could open up a whole can of worms. The way that the current political parties are squirming suggests that if the truth comes out it could do very, very serious damage to the reputation of the 'government' as a body rather than currently.

The reputation of the political system is shot anyway with this after the Iraq, expenses, media-cosying, etc scandals.

We know there are nonces and protectors of nonces in the highest echelons of government.

We know this because they have been destroying documents, denying rumours and obfuscating - not to mention criminal acts like burglary and potentially murder of whistleblower Iain Mills MP, and alleged murders of young boys.

If our political elite were decent folk they would have ordered an immediate investigation of nonce allegations. That they haven't can only mean that they aren't, or at least the decent folk amongst them haven't stood up and been counted yet.

Parliament, which moderates the agenda, has two options: to hunker down and hope it all blows over; or to fess up and clear out all the shit. This won't blow over. If parliament doesn't sort this out the political system in this country will lose its last vestige of respect and the next time rioting breaks out and parliament starts pronouncing on it the country will turn round to it and issue a massive "FUCK OFF, HYPOCRITES!"

But anyone willing to stand up and publicly denounce the nonces will command huge respect.

I've said for a while the circumstances are ripe for a new political party, bankrolled by a billionaire. There's definitely a sense that the old certainties around our political landscape are starting to inexorably shift. Societies need these upheavals from time to time. It's probably healthy, on balance, but there are risks, of course.

MCFC ruining politics since 2014?

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Keith Vaz: bastion of moral rectitude.

Nick Clegg - a man who cares so much about sexual impropriety that he tried to stop an inquiry into his own party chairman Lord Rennard groping up female Liberal Democrats.
From the party that brought us that paragon of virtue Cyril Smith.
And Portsmouth South kiddie fiddler Mike Hancock, who's actions were also covered up by his party.
At least we won't have many Liberal nonces to worry about after the next election.

 

[The Flash]

Keith Vaz: bastion of moral rectitude.

Nick Clegg - a man who cares so much about sexual impropriety that he tried to stop an inquiry into his own party chairman Lord Rennard groping up female Liberal Democrats.
From the party that brought us that paragon of virtue Cyril Smith.
And Portsmouth South kiddie fiddler Mike Hancock, who's actions were also covered up by his party.
At least we won't have any Liberal nonces to worry about after the next election.

Edited for accuracy.

 

[Chancy Termites]

Nick Clegg was on Breakfast this morning, and said "if people high up in government have covered for other people,....if that's what is going to be alleged" etc.

He spoke like a man who had been given an idea of the shitstorm ahead and was trying doing a terrible job of pretending he hadn't.

The worry is, this could send the three main parties into approval ratings in single figures. Up stands a party like UKIP or BNP to fill the popularity vacuum and we'rd in trouble.

Leon Brittan gave Clegg his first job in politics. Clegg gave Britton a job as a trade advisor in this government. He's probably been hearing stuff for the last 20+ years.

If you've been to loads of UKIP meetings, written to your local candidates, met them, questioned them, been to other areas, met more candidates, questioned more candidates, talked to councillors - the white ones and the non-white ones, the straight ones and the gay ones, if you've done all of that and still think they're the same as the BNP then fair enough.

But if you've come to that conclusion based on what's been said about UKIP by the very politicians we're talking about here, and by the reporting from their friends in the mainstream press and in the BBC, where Savile, Harris, Stuart Hall etc carried out much of their abuse, then just stop and have a think about it for a minute For god's sake!