The winter of discontent

Shale gas was always a none starter we are a small densely populated island and there were significant issues extracting this safely (this was alluded too on R4). I'm no expert on this but we need a long term plan a strategy that takes into the next 10, 25 and 50 years.

Unfortunately this govt can't plan for tea time and its quarter past two now - the only way you would get Johnsons attention would be to wrap it up with fantasises of giant building projects and huge opportunities for him to don hi-viz and a hard hat and get photographed whenever he needs any distractions from the mess he is presiding over
 
The main failure of successive governments has been in not replacing and expanding the UK's nuclear generating capacity, which has got to be a long term key part of the low carbon energy mix.

I'm not convinced shale is a non-starter. There are large areas of the country with significant shale gas reserves which could have alleviated the current crisis somewhat if planning authorities had allowed for commercial scale extraction. There are lots of environmental implications but the rules in this country are much more stringent than in the US.


Perhaps look at the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC ... She did an indepth on fracking in the states with communities suffering over 100 earth tremors / quakes a day . This is just one of them

 
Perhaps look at the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC ... She did an indepth on fracking in the states with communities suffering over 100 earth tremors / quakes a day . This is just one of them



I thought it was the repeated tremors that did for the site between Preston and Blackpool (roughly). The local MP being at risk if it continued probably counted as well.

Didn't they keep changing their mind about fracking anyway, including putting some indeterminate timeframe on it?
 
Perhaps look at the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC ... She did an indepth on fracking in the states with communities suffering over 100 earth tremors / quakes a day . This is just one of them


I think I remember reading that they didn't bother imposing any strict regulations on pollution and seismic activity in the US whereas it was very tightly controlled here.
 
I think I remember reading that they didn't bother imposing any strict regulations on pollution and seismic activity in the US whereas it was very tightly controlled here.
Do you have shares in shale gas or own a company that wants to drill for it?

The UK is never going to drill for shale gas that ship has long sailed.
 
Do you have shares in shale gas or own a company that wants to drill for it?

The UK is never going to drill for shale gas that ship has long sailed.
No and you're probably right. Just not sure relying on Russian and Qatari gas imports is a better idea than increasing domestic production. Depends on whether the environmental risks of extracting shale gas outweigh the risk of running out.

On a typical day 40%-50% of UK electricity is generated using gas compared to 5% in France, with the world average at about 25%. We're probably amongst the most exposed to gas supply issues of any country in the world.

In an ideal world we would have continued to build up nuclear capacity rather than stopping 30 years ago but it would take another 30 years to get back where we should be so we need to do something else alongside building up renewable capacity.
 
No and you're probably right. Just not sure relying on Russian and Qatari gas imports is a better idea than increasing domestic production. Depends on whether the environmental risks of extracting shale gas outweigh the risk of running out.

On a typical day 40%-50% of UK electricity is generated using gas compared to 5% in France, with the world average at about 25%. We're probably amongst the most exposed to gas supply issues of any country in the world.

In an ideal world we would have continued to build up nuclear capacity rather than stopping 30 years ago but it would take another 30 years to get back where we should be so we need to do something else alongside building up renewable capacity.


That £1.5 trillion of gas and oil reserves off the coast of Scotland is looking pretty tasty right now.
 
No and you're probably right. Just not sure relying on Russian and Qatari gas imports is a better idea than increasing domestic production. Depends on whether the environmental risks of extracting shale gas outweigh the risk of running out.

On a typical day 40%-50% of UK electricity is generated using gas compared to 5% in France, with the world average at about 25%. We're probably amongst the most exposed to gas supply issues of any country in the world.

In an ideal world we would have continued to build up nuclear capacity rather than stopping 30 years ago but it would take another 30 years to get back where we should be so we need to do something else alongside building up renewable capacity.
What does the gas price do for moving to electric vehicles if electricity is generated by gas?
 

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