This transfer window/Marwood

Re: Winter defends Marwood

Cobwebcat said:
lost_n_spaced said:
Should this not be renamed 'Winter paid to defend Marwood by Marwood / City hierarchy' ?

Winter is a good guy like Martin Samuel. Talks a lot of sense.

hahahahahahahaha, nice one cat, Samuel yes, Winter, hahahahahahah, nice one classic!
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Mancio said:
Pam said:
Mancio said:
in a couple of days we could end with two third choice targets (garcia and nastasic) signed in a tipical hurry like panic buy. and payed at thier possible maximum value.

then i wonder if anyone will still be here to says that marwood has done a great job...

Very good players, though, apparently. Garcia in particular.

very good players but still third choices , garcia to de rossi and martinez and nastasic to silva and agger.

Why does this matter? Mawood is a twat but this is the nature of the beast with transfer targts.. You need to have a Plan B an a Plan C. I bet some of the City lads tearing up the league last season were second and third choices. Still won the league and stuffed the rags 6-1 at Swampsville.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

whipper said:
What evidence do some of you have,that Marwood doesn't know what he's doing?

It's facts I'm talking about,not twitter nonsense and RM spitting his dummy out cos we won't pay over the odds for players.

It's cringeworthy some of the stuff on here,embarrassing stuff.

Our profit making, Premiership player producing Academy has completely fell apart under his watch.
We have the highest wage bill in the league.
The club has no consistent football policy across teams. Our support of womens football fell apart.
The club leaks like a sieve and his personal grieveances are often publicly aired through his contacts in the press.
He has no relevant qualifications for the role he has.
He has consistently failed to get on with every manager who has worked under him.
We are unable to move on players.
We have no influence in UEFA and they still use us as a whipping boy.
Our scouting department fell apart.


There's more, but that's some to be getting on with.

Is anybody trying to seriously suggest that Brian Marwood is one of the greatest football administrators in the world? If the answer is no, why are you supporting his continued employment at the club?

There are better out there and I imagine that he will not last much longer now that Soriano is here.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Pam said:
Mancio said:
Pam said:
Very good players, though, apparently. Garcia in particular.

very good players but still third choices , garcia to de rossi and martinez and nastasic to silva and agger.

Why does this matter? Mawood is a twat but this is the nature of the beast with transfer targts.. You need to have a Plan B an a Plan C. I bet some of the City lads tearing up the league last season were second and third choices. Still won the league and stuffed the rags 6-1 at Swampsville.

cant see many third choices among silva nasri yaya aguero balotelli. they were all first choices and they won us the trophies.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Mancio said:
Pam said:
Mancio said:
in a couple of days we could end with two third choice targets (garcia and nastasic) signed in a tipical hurry like panic buy. and payed at thier possible maximum value.

then i wonder if anyone will still be here to says that marwood has done a great job...

Very good players, though, apparently. Garcia in particular.

very good players but still third choices , garcia to de rossi and martinez and nastasic to silva and agger.

Still not sure why that would be Marwoods fault (he may well be shit but there are other factors surely?)
Take the Hazard situation, if Lyon said 32m and hazard said 200k pw plus a starting place everygame and his agent said 'Its 6m to me', I can't see Marwood having the authority to say Yes or No - I think he would have been on the blower to Khaldoon straight away. After all the owners have done I can't see them having a dick in place of big decisions.

On another topic Mancio, I'm going to Naples in two weeks (international break), should I get Mario or Mancini on my new shirt ?
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Damocles said:
whipper said:
What evidence do some of you have,that Marwood doesn't know what he's doing?

It's facts I'm talking about,not twitter nonsense and RM spitting his dummy out cos we won't pay over the odds for players.

It's cringeworthy some of the stuff on here,embarrassing stuff.

Our profit making, Premiership player producing Academy has completely fell apart under his watch.
We have the highest wage bill in the league.
The club has no consistent football policy across teams. Our support of womens football fell apart.
The club leaks like a sieve and his personal grieveances are often publicly aired through his contacts in the press.
He has no relevant qualifications for the role he has.
He has consistently failed to get on with every manager who has worked under him.
We are unable to move on players.
We have no influence in UEFA and they still use us as a whipping boy.
Our scouting department fell apart.


There's more, but that's some to be getting on with.

Is anybody trying to seriously suggest that Brian Marwood is one of the greatest football administrators in the world? If the answer is no, why are you supporting his continued employment at the club?

There are better out there and I imagine that he will not last much longer now that Soriano is here.

I wonder why those leaks failed to mention the Rodwell transfer.

You have no evidence whatsoever for any of those comments.

I haven't a clue if Marwood is doing a good or bad job, but I would have thought our owner and chairman would.

I guess you know more than them then.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Damocles said:
Our profit making, Premiership player producing Academy has completely fell apart under his watch.
We have the highest wage bill in the league.
The club has no consistent football policy across teams. Our support of womens football fell apart.
The club leaks like a sieve and his personal grieveances are often publicly aired through his contacts in the press.
He has no relevant qualifications for the role he has.
He has consistently failed to get on with every manager who has worked under him.
We are unable to move on players.
We have no influence in UEFA and they still use us as a whipping boy.
Our scouting department fell apart.


There's more, but that's some to be getting on with.

Is anybody trying to seriously suggest that Brian Marwood is one of the greatest football administrators in the world? If the answer is no, why are you supporting his continued employment at the club?

There are better out there and I imagine that he will not last much longer now that Soriano is here.

Well if all that is on his head no wonder it is failing. He is responsible for the lack of interest in the womens team now?
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Damocles said:
whipper said:
What evidence do some of you have,that Marwood doesn't know what he's doing?

It's facts I'm talking about,not twitter nonsense and RM spitting his dummy out cos we won't pay over the odds for players.

It's cringeworthy some of the stuff on here,embarrassing stuff.

Our profit making, Premiership player producing Academy has completely fell apart under his watch.
We have the highest wage bill in the league.
The club has no consistent football policy across teams. Our support of womens football fell apart.
The club leaks like a sieve and his personal grieveances are often publicly aired through his contacts in the press.
He has no relevant qualifications for the role he has.
He has consistently failed to get on with every manager who has worked under him.
We are unable to move on players.
We have no influence in UEFA and they still use us as a whipping boy.
Our scouting department fell apart.


There's more, but that's some to be getting on with.

Is anybody trying to seriously suggest that Brian Marwood is one of the greatest football administrators in the world? If the answer is no, why are you supporting his continued employment at the club?

There are better out there and I imagine that he will not last much longer now that Soriano is here.

Excellent post
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

GerryGowsRusholmeBoy said:
Mancio said:
Pam said:
Very good players, though, apparently. Garcia in particular.

very good players but still third choices , garcia to de rossi and martinez and nastasic to silva and agger.

Still not sure why that would be Marwoods fault (he may well be shit but there are other factors surely?)
Take the Hazard situation, if Lyon said 32m and hazard said 200k pw plus a starting place everygame and his agent said 'Its 6m to me', I can't see Marwood having the authority to say Yes or No - I think he would have been on the blower to Khaldoon straight away. After all the owners have done I can't see them having a dick in place of big decisions.

On another topic Mancio, I'm going to Naples in two weeks (international break), should I get Mario or Mancini on my new shirt ?

why not cavani ? :-)
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Mancio said:
GerryGowsRusholmeBoy said:
Mancio said:
very good players but still third choices , garcia to de rossi and martinez and nastasic to silva and agger.

Still not sure why that would be Marwoods fault (he may well be shit but there are other factors surely?)
Take the Hazard situation, if Lyon said 32m and hazard said 200k pw plus a starting place everygame and his agent said 'Its 6m to me', I can't see Marwood having the authority to say Yes or No - I think he would have been on the blower to Khaldoon straight away. After all the owners have done I can't see them having a dick in place of big decisions.

On another topic Mancio, I'm going to Naples in two weeks (international break), should I get Mario or Mancini on my new shirt ?

why not cavani ? :-)

I see what you did there -careful with that itk shit.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Hang on a minute - we have got a half decent team,haven't we? Mostly signed under Marwood's stewardship;with power to add; are Premier League champions; and imho, we have a squad which I wouldn't swap for any other in the Premier League - what the f*** are you moaning about him for? What f'kin planet are you on?
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Pam said:
Sky Blue said:
The cookie monster said:
Yes.
I remember mancinis first press conference well.

Yep, Winter was the worst of the lot. Fucking hyena he was that day.

Winter is an elitist big time. When we started winning trophies, he suddenly got on board. And he leads the charge in the bizarre hype around Wayne' Rooney's status as "world class". Being better than the other press scum is not difficult.

I believe he was very much anti-City after the Hughes sacking but was subsequently "wined-and-dined" and no doubt given the full "Project and sustainability" chat and is now one of the more pro-City journalists.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

if Brian Marwood was doing a good job, we as fans wouldnt even know he exists as his job is to work behind the scenes as the deal maker,

the fact that mancini has to voice his concerns about him in press conferences and that he is the most talked about person in the transfer window implies that he is infact a jumped up useless tosser that needs the boot!

Reigning league champions looking to defend their title and hoping to push on in europe should not be scrapping the barrel of european football hunting for players less than a week before the end of the window!

as mancini said, he and his scouts highlighted the players theyd like before the end of the season, yet we are no closer to getting them now as we were then!

Marwood out!
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

the blue panther said:
Hang on a minute - we have got a half decent team,haven't we? Mostly signed under Marwood's stewardship;with power to add; are Premier League champions; and imho, we have a squad which I wouldn't swap for any other in the Premier League - what the f*** are you moaning about him for? What f'kin planet are you on?

We have a great squad, chosen by some good managers and a good scouting team.
We signed many of them by giving them ridiculous wages and massively overpaying their agents. Now any contract renewal is ten times harder, agents don't exactly like us because we've had to scale back on their fees that they used to take the piss on costing us Hazard and the like, and we have no chance of selling a ny players because of it.

Apart from that, and tge other things mentioned, he's done super
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Damocles said:
Our profit making, Premiership player producing Academy has completely fell apart under his watch.

Any evidence of this beyond your personal opinion?

We have the highest wage bill in the league.

We are also champions. Chelsea have the second highest wage bill and they finished well below us last season. Again, this is a nothing comment which isn't relevant to Marwood's capacity to do his job. Unless your suggesting that it is in fact Brian Marwood's fault that the world of football has known for the last four years that AD will pay what it takes to get players.

The club has no consistent football policy across teams. Our support of womens football fell apart.

Again, this is an academy gripe. Which I'm beginning to suspect is where all your gripes are coming from.

The club leaks like a sieve and his personal grieveances are often publicly aired through his contacts in the press.

And what about you airing employees personal grievances on a City forum? Last week you were telling us that nobody on the football side of things at MCFC respects Marwood or has any time for him. You said that the people you've spoken to think he's incompetent. A bit rich to slag him off for media leaks when he's clearly battling against a fifth column from within the club.

He has no relevant qualifications for the role he has.

He's as qualified as Braca at Inter, if not more.

He has consistently failed to get on with every manager who has worked under him.

That'll be two managers, both of whom are notoriously egotistical.

We are unable to move on players.

If no one wants to buy my house at the price i want to sell it at i'm not going to blame the estate agent.

We have no influence in UEFA and they still use us as a whipping boy.

It's the CEO's job to deal with UEFA.

Our scouting department fell apart.

Mark Hughes' staff have gradually been eased out of the club.


There's more, but that's some to be getting on with.

Not really. And as I said to you the other week, if he's as shit as you claim, then Mansour and Khaldoon are fucking incompetent beyond belief.

The new CEO may well want to bring his own people in. That still won't be a reflection of the job Marwood has done anymore than Rigg leaving was a reflection of the job he did at City. Everyone, Mancini included, wants their own cronies on the City gravy train. I can see it's pissing a lot of people off that Brian is AD's man.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

For the reigning champions we've managed to build quite a collection of maybe 8 or 9 players that are shit and need to be got rid of (and that's just from this weeks forum reading), a manager that was subject of Mancini out threads as recently as 10 competitive matches ago, and a football administrator who is incompetent at a job that I doubt one of us knows anything about despite being praised by the chairman who evidently can't have a clue about running the club to be missing what everyone else is seeing.

Bunch of moaning tarts on here lately.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Damocles said:
the blue panther said:
Hang on a minute - we have got a half decent team,haven't we? Mostly signed under Marwood's stewardship;with power to add; are Premier League champions; and imho, we have a squad which I wouldn't swap for any other in the Premier League - what the f*** are you moaning about him for? What f'kin planet are you on?

We have a great squad, chosen by some good managers and a good scouting team.
We signed many of them by giving them ridiculous wages and massively overpaying their agents. Now any contract renewal is ten times harder, agents don't exactly like us because we've had to scale back on their fees that they used to take the piss on costing us Hazard and the like, and we have no chance of selling a ny players because of it.

Apart from that, and tge other things mentioned, he's done super


So your advocating that we just give clubs, players and agents whatever they ask for?

Also, it isn't Marwood who okays any deal, that would be those who own the club.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

Damocles said:
We have a great squad, chosen by some good managers and a good scouting team.
We signed many of them by giving them ridiculous wages and massively overpaying their agents. Now any contract renewal is ten times harder, agents don't exactly like us because we've had to scale back on their fees that they used to take the piss on costing us Hazard and the like, and we have no chance of selling a ny players because of it.

Apart from that, and tge other things mentioned, he's done super

Bit of a contradiction though isnt it - you complain about the wage roll and agent fees etc that we have paid in the past. That was probably necessary to attract the players to the club when we didnt have champions league football.

Now we are an attractive proposition we don't need to pay over the going rate and why should we.

But do you want us to carry on paying these wages and agent fees or not. You can't have it both ways. If we didnt pay over the odds we wouldnt have won the league last year without a shadow. If you want us to continue to pay over the odds you can't complain about having the biggest wage bill.
 
Re: Winter defends Marwood

winnie said:
if Brian Marwood was doing a good job, we as fans wouldnt even know he exists as his job is to work behind the scenes as the deal maker,

the fact that mancini has to voice his concerns about him in press conferences and that he is the most talked about person in the transfer window implies that he is infact a jumped up useless tosser that needs the boot!

Reigning league champions looking to defend their title and hoping to push on in europe should not be scrapping the barrel of european football hunting for players less than a week before the end of the window!

as mancini said, he and his scouts highlighted the players theyd like before the end of the season, yet we are no closer to getting them now as we were then!


Marwood out!

Absolutely this.

Yes, we may get Sinclair in this week, but why have the powers that be waited until the last two weeks to get anything done?

It's not a shambles, but it is strange considering how well we've done in previous windows.
 

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