This transfer window/Marwood

Citizen in Pakistan said:
taconinja said:
AustinBlue said:
When you are negotiating, you have a price you are willing to pay. If they other side wants more than that amount, you either decide to pay more or walk away. They did away with magic wands after the last Harry Potter book.
That's a simplification if we're being honest. A good or great negotiator gets around that. You don't just throw a number out there and say "Take it or leave it!"

You guys are right to some extent but should it take that long for a good negotiator to assess whether the deal or the price is worth it not? lets say if the price did not suited us,we should have presented our final offer and moved on a week ago to the next target may be.Now were in the final week and Swansea know were out of winger so they could dictate terms now in this deal.Arsenal may not be in a position to do so but they will surely try to squeeze as much as they can if Walcott comes to city .

Swanseas willingness to sell might change as we get closer to the end of the window.

They'll see Friday as the last chance to get a decent fee for a player who can leave for nothing at the end of the season and who might not be overly pleased to still be at Swanseas come September.

We could walk away job but we might find that he falls into our price range over the next few days.
 
FanchesterCity said:
All in all, the manager needs a counter - someone to challenge his buys, and if necessary pull the plug.
Is this a joke?

Had the average performances of the tv pundit [Marwood] had his way in the transfer signing, we would have end with Ashley Young, Jordan Henderson and Junior Hoilett!! Right, the manager needs someone to challenge his buys ... BOLLOX

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To be fair we should give credit where credit is due, Marwood sold Caicedo to Levante for a massive £1million, who sold him a week later for £7.5million. That's probably our biggest success story offloading deadwood in the past decade!!!!
 
It is not a video game. There is politics, money, corruption, and a heaping slab of Arab pride in play. I think that pride more than even financial fair play, the biggest driver is our ownership not wanting to look like fools, and look like intelligent and sophisticated people. Which in the world of modern football is very hard - unless you are Arsenal and don't care about winning any more. That is driving the "sell before buy" as much as the need for cash. It isn't as of they are running out of money. Marwood plays only a very minor role. We used to have a CEO who could stand between the ownership and Mancini and Marwood. No-one on here knows how the discussions go at the board meetings where Marwood presents the scouting reports and performance evaluations on players. All we see is where Mancini drops hints in press conferences. Marwood is an easy scape goat, but no-one could do that job in the absence of a strong CEO.
 
isnt there wining dining, charming, sending the Ho's in, get the chairman coke up . After 2 - 3 days of debuchery at no personnal expense, if he has had a good time we get what we want?

aye , this might be a slapstick appraisal of the process , how ever maybe marwood is just a tad "boring"
 
blue wang said:
isnt there wining dining, charming, sending the Ho's in, get the chairman coke up . After 2 - 3 days of debuchery at no personnal expense, if he has had a good time we get what we want?

aye , this might be a slapstick appraisal of the process , how ever maybe marwood is just a tad "boring"

Think it´s been made clear we´re not after Rooney
 
Don't think much will happen tomorrow as everyone will be at the Champions League draw, roll on Friday!
 
mike channon´s windmill said:
blue wang said:
isnt there wining dining, charming, sending the Ho's in, get the chairman coke up . After 2 - 3 days of debuchery at no personnal expense, if he has had a good time we get what we want?

aye , this might be a slapstick appraisal of the process , how ever maybe marwood is just a tad "boring"

Think it´s been made clear we´re not after Rooney

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AustinBlue said:
It is not a video game. There is politics, money, corruption, and a heaping slab of Arab pride in play. I think that pride more than even financial fair play, the biggest driver is our ownership not wanting to look like fools, and look like intelligent and sophisticated people. Which in the world of modern football is very hard - unless you are Arsenal and don't care about winning any more. That is driving the "sell before buy" as much as the need for cash. It isn't as of they are running out of money. Marwood plays only a very minor role. We used to have a CEO who could stand between the ownership and Mancini and Marwood. No-one on here knows how the discussions go at the board meetings where Marwood presents the scouting reports and performance evaluations on players. All we see is where Mancini drops hints in press conferences. Marwood is an easy scape goat, but no-one could do that job in the absence of a strong CEO.

Could it also be that Marwood is brown nosing Khaldoon as he knows Mancini's position is much stronger this season. Marwood wants to show Khaldoon how good he is at negotiating tranfers whilst staying within the remit set for him.

Whilst Marwood might save the club perhaps, £5mn (unknown figure) in fees, this short sightedness might actually come back to bite us all on the arse.

Marwood could also be trying to show Mancini that he still has some power at the club.

Meanwhile we keep missing out on players.
 
CityCTID said:
FanchesterCity said:
All in all, the manager needs a counter - someone to challenge his buys, and if necessary pull the plug.
Is this a joke?

Had the average performances of the tv pundit [Marwood] had his way in the transfer signing, we would have end with Ashley Young, Jordan Henderson and Junior Hoilett!! Right, the manager needs someone to challenge his buys ... BOLLOX

-------

To be fair we should give credit where credit is due, Marwood sold Caicedo to Levante for a massive £1million, who sold him a week later for £7.5million. That's probably our biggest success story offloading deadwood in the past decade!!!!


So, let's just clarify this -

I say Mancini cannot have 100% free reign on who he buys and at any cost, and that there has to be a 'counter' to his purchases - because the club needs to keep control of finances.

You say that's bollox - one can only assume you DO think Mancini should have a free reign?

ANYBODY running a sensible business is not going to give an employee (Mancini) free reign over any signing at any price. It's Marwood's job to secure the signings Mancini wants AT a price the club can afford. If the owner wasn't telling Marwood what the limits are, Marwood would be able to buy 90% of the players wouldn't he?... he'd just outbid everybody else and pay them a fortune in wages.
It's clear that some deals are falling through because Marwood is the man tasked with knowing the limits and sticking to them... on behalf of the board, and owner (who are paying his wages and calling the shots).

You would have to be deluded to think anything else. Even I could sign Sinclair if I just agreed to Swansea's valuation, or I could buy Cavani if I met the 55 million buy out. So why's Marwood not doing that?... because he's working within specific constraints!
 

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