Thomas Tuchel | England Manager

GoatersLeftShin said:
Totally agree as usual mate. You can't please some people.

We had an Englishman in Southgate who I think did an excellent job, but because he didn't win every game he managed 12-0 he was useless. We couldn't find an Englishman to manage England with a decent record and who was available. Apparently Potter was a negative bus parker and Howe didn't want to leave Newcastle.

Carsley looked promising on paper and basically did what a LOT of people have been demanding - play our 'world class' attacking players - and it was a dogs dinner. Now he's useless.

I suspect we will soon hear that Tuchel is useless as well and we should've picked some other random manager! Tuchel has done well wherever he's been, won trophies and seems well regarded by those in the game. I think it's a bit of a coup in that United have been sniffing around him and I dare say there's plenty of other teams who would want him if their seasons don't start well.

I hope he does well and I think he's probably the best manager we could realistically have hired.
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Spot on.

Hopefully his appointment can stop the usual cliche ‘the FA just want a yes man’ - I suspect after the first defeat they’ll find a new angle to moan at the FA.
 
Cellarite said:
The same as they always did.
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The nation’s league is a new concept and by November we will have had three international breaks so that comment is incorrect. It is pointless beyond belief playing Finland Greece and the Republic of Ireland so many times during a busy season . Money making bollocks for the respective FA a and UEFA
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
We had an Englishman in Southgate who I think did an excellent job, but because he didn't win every game he managed 12-0 he was useless.
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An excellent job? That's a silly statement. England underperformed close to every time they faced really decent teams in the major tournaments under Gareth Southgate.
He was useless because he was a loser who played dull and timid football.
 
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Nellies left peg said:
The nation’s league is a new concept and by November we will have had three international breaks so that comment is incorrect. It is pointless beyond belief playing Finland Greece and the Republic of Ireland so many times during a busy season . Money making bollocks for the respective FA a and UEFA
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Well it isn't incorrect. I just picked a random year - 1989 - and checked England's results. From the beginning of the season to December, there were 4 international breaks. England played 2 qualifiers and 2 friendly matches.

We've always had these international breaks. They were likely in place when you first got into football. The Nations League has replaced friendlies. They are largely useless but add to a country's ranking (so affect chances of qualification) and also give a back door route into tournaments.

What's changed is football fans' perspectives on international football. I'm far less excited about non tournament England matches now than I was when I was 11 in 1989 but I don't piss and moan about it every time an international break comes along because it's a worthless exercise. I can't change them and they're not going away.

Football players want to represent their countries. We get to watch those players play for our clubs an enormous amount more than they play for their country.

As for making money for the FA and UEFA, everyone in football is there to make more and more money. City are as guilty as anyone of this as this week's news on season tickets shows. It's blinkered to complain about one element of money being made because you don't particularly like it.
 
Richie Rich said:
An excellent job? That's a silly statement. England underperformed close to every time they faced really decent teams in the major tournaments under Gareth Southgate.
He was useless because he was a loser who played dull and timid football.
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In fairness, his record pisses all over every other England manager in history, apart from Ramsey.
 
So yet more proof that the media know absolutely fuck all, most if not all were claiming that Howe was a shoe in for the job, then he says this morning he wasn't even approached by the FA, they just make stuff up and are becoming more than embarrassing by the week.
 
Richie Rich said:
An excellent job? That's a silly statement. England underperformed close to every time they faced really decent teams in the major tournaments under Gareth Southgate.
He was useless because he was a loser who played dull and timid football.
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Other than Sir Alf no one else has come close to Southgates record. He also got the squad in order and got the players wanting to play for him.

England have underperformed MANY times under all managers when up against some of the best, it's not exclusive to Southgate.
 
Don't expect entertaining football... Tuchel is rather pragmatic. Honigstein yesterday had a long talk with Lineker on a podcast - especially when it is man management I think that there is the problem. He might sugercoat Kane and some others - but lose the other ones like he did at Bayern...

 
Maldeika said:
Don't expect entertaining football... Tuchel is rather pragmatic. Honigstein yesterday had a long talk with Lineker on a podcast - especially when it is man management I think that there is the problem. He might sugercoat Kane and some others - but lose the other ones like he did at Bayern...

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Big Ears has got it right again - Tuchel has an unpleasant personality which affects his coaching methods.
 
I’m one of those who thinks international football should be our best against their best. That’s the entire point of international football. We don’t draft in Kevin de Bruyne and Rodri to play in midfield because we haven’t got a decent defensive mid or truly creative mid in the squad. We go with what we’ve got with the English lads.

And it should be the same with the manager. He should always be English. It should never have been Sven, never have been Capello and it shouldn’t be Tuchel.

However, until we address the problem we have in England/English football with regards to being bereft of a talent pool of English coaches, I can see why we’d look for a foreign coach.

It costs £3,645 to enrol on an UEFA A Licence course in England and unbelievably costs £9,890 to complete the UEFA Pro Licence. There are also very limited spaces to do the Licences at St George’s Park each year.

That’s why we only have less than 1,800 qualified English coaches.

In Spain they have 15,000+ qualified coaches!

That’s because it costs €960 and €1,070 for the same Licences, respectively.

Something needs to change in England.

But good luck to Tuchel, I hope he does well.
 
‘Tuchel you’re the eins
Churchill bombed your Nans
Football’s coming home again’
 
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