Thrown out for smoking- Help!

blueinsa said:
Spiros said:
This is funny/mental.

If you get warned for your conduct and then go completely against the warning then you're not that bright are you? And you can't really start bleating when you get turfed out. HEED THE WARNING.

And all this shit about blaming the club/the police/the stewards for the atmosphere is a complete pile of fucking nonsense. The FANS make the atmosphere and if you consider atmosphere to be flicking v's and swearing at people then you are sorely deluded. The Kop often generates a great atmosphere and they are nowhere near away fans and don't feel the need to 'bounce off' away supporters.

It's all a smokescreen and an excuse for our dwindling atmosphere at games because we are becoming complacent and expectant like fans of the other big clubs. There is no systematic change - that is paranoid drivel. Of course there has been a demographic shift over time and things like no smoking have come in and it is different to the Maine Road days. But like somone said, the club are way more lenient than others would be by letting us stand in the south stand which probably goes against all sorts of regulations. You can still have a beer, no-one stops you singing anything, you can stand up and sing your head off if you want to that badly.

So please give up the victim mentality because it isn't warranted.

That isn't all aimed at the people chucked out, it's aimed at everyone sorry fucker blaming everyone except the fans.


.....signed, P.Fletcher.


Have you ever been to anfield?
 
Spiros said:
blueinsa said:
think about this for a minute mate.

Imagine Aris fans or Poznan fans having to come to coms week in week out and having to deal with our stewarding and policing....

Do you think it would have any effect on the way they are able to support their clubs as they do in their respective home countries and grounds?

Please don't think about a one off game as away fans, think about them having to support under the same rules as us all the time.


But I didn't mention either of them!

I only mentioned Liverpool!

And anyway apparently Aris only have decent support for the big games.

Also would you like to live under the same rules and regulations that are in place in both these countries? I know I wouldn't in Poland, where I know for a fact corruption is rife. Also the Greek economy is one of the worst in the world. You have to take this things in context when comparing us to them. You can't have your atmospheric cake and eat it. (but we're getting away from the point here)

Not debating politics mate or the general standard of life in their countries, im talking about football fans being allowed to create their own atmosphere unhindered.

As for your insistence on Liverpool fans being great, we will have to disagree im afraid.
 
hisroyalblueness said:
SS111 said:
Wouldnt bother ringing or emailing, I'm pretty sure it is a fixed game period you lose your card for. On another not though, I know if I was a smoker and everyone else was smoking I would have one too, but why cant people just wait 90 minutes til they have a fag and follow the laws? Its only like going on a plane to a holiday destination.

If it's 'outside on the ramps' then it's not following the law (which only covers 'inside') and it's not like being on a plane . . unless your referring to an exotic open to the elements type plane . . a flying carpet perhaps.
Also; the ramps are made of nothing but concrete so no fire hazard either.

I can quite understand someone popping out onto the ramps for a smoke at half-time and if it were me and the stewards were stupid enough to reduce our fan numbers then I'd simply cut down on the games not the ciggies - especially whenever games are televised live and we can watch from the comfort of our own homes - without the stewards causing grief for no good reason.

Let's get real eh?


There's not a lot you can do against this kind of mentality!

I'm in the south stand. There are no spirals or any open areas. So why don't I get to smoke like the people who sit on levels 2 and 3? You can't have one rule for certain areas of the ground and another for different areas. It has to be the whole stadium.

I understand that it might be a bit jobsworth to turf someone out when they're not doing any harm. But choosing to be able to smoke rather than go to the match is pathetic in the extreme.

-- Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:15 pm --

im_still_here said:
blueinsa said:
.....signed, P.Fletcher.


Have you ever been to anfield?


Yes, many times in the away end, and if you and Blueinsa read what I actually wrote I said the Kop 'often' creates a great atmosphere. I didn't say 'always'. Maybe I could have said 'sometimes' or maybe even seldom. The point being that they don't need away fans next to them or to interact with them to do this. If you deny that the kop generates an atmosphere then you are deluded. I've been there on a Wednesday night when they played Villa in the premier league about 5 years ago in a 2-2 draw and the atmos was electric to be fair.<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:16 pm --<br /><br />
blueinsa said:
Spiros said:
But I didn't mention either of them!

I only mentioned Liverpool!

And anyway apparently Aris only have decent support for the big games.

Also would you like to live under the same rules and regulations that are in place in both these countries? I know I wouldn't in Poland, where I know for a fact corruption is rife. Also the Greek economy is one of the worst in the world. You have to take this things in context when comparing us to them. You can't have your atmospheric cake and eat it. (but we're getting away from the point here)

Not debating politics mate or the general standard of life in their countries, im talking about football fans being allowed to create their own atmosphere unhindered.


No, fair enough. What I will say is that we are not hindered in any way. Depending on what you count as 'atmosphere'
 
It's like parking on a single yellow line, never getting a ticket cos everyone else parks there so you think it's sound... then one day you get a ticket and i you feel a right cúnt.

The signs are there, so you know the risk.
 
WNRH said:
Went into two toilets against Aris, both of them were overbearing with smoke, made your eyes water, i decided against having a piss in either of them and went back to my seat, throughout the 2nd half i was bursting and spent more time thinking about not pissing than actually concentrating on the game.

So apologies if i'm not more sincere about you getting caught, can you not go 2 hours without a smoke?

I always laugh when smokers come on here with their puppy dog eyes, playing the victim when their selfisness ruins it for others, not to mention you all know full well the rules not only set by the club but by the goverment so if you get caught more fool you, it means one less person blowing off their fumes when ordinary people want a piss.

post of the thread.
 
Simples, don't smoke.

Yes I am a reformed smoker but everywhere smells better around the ground until you go for a pee at half time, understand people need to smoke but FFS we're going to watch football if you don't like it don't come.
 
Can anyone help, i am new to bluemoon & i was at the kiev game on thurs night when i was ejected at half time for smoking in the toilets in the east stand lower. My season card was confiscated but i have yet to here from the club. Can anyone advise as to whether i will be able to purchase a ticket for the semi final ??????????
 

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