Ticket prices for 2nd leg v PSG.

[Shaelumstash]

The point is that tickets for the game at Norwich were £50 and people are saying that £55 for a CL QF is reasonable compared to that. But £50 to go to Norwich is NOT reasonable in any way, shape or form. £30 is reasonable for a game like that and therefore £40 would be a reasonable top price for the PSG match. In other words, the price they asked for the Kiev game would be more suitable.

I'd adjust the @Shaelumstash figures down a bit. I reckon, when you take the price structure and juniors into account, our average price per ticket will be around £37/38. So with 40,000, that's about £1.5m. Drop the prices by £20 and that comes down to, say, £25. 50,000 tickets sold at that price is £1.25m or £250k less.

It's quite staggering and incredibly sad that the club appear to value that £250k more than the extra 10,000 seats that would be filled by charging a lower price. Particularly when we're getting €6m just for playing those two games and our share of the market pool will have been increased by being the only English team to qualify for this stage. Half of that is allocated based on the number of games played so the rags played 6, Chelsea & Arsenal both played 8 and we'll have played at least 10, meaning we get at least 10/32 of that pot. I suspect that's worth at least another €5m compared to us having gone out in the last 16, even if we get mullered in both games.

That's an extra €11m for just playing these two games yet the club values an additional €300k over a full house and the possibility that the extra support could make a difference between winning and not winning the tie. It's fucking brainless and possibly gives a clue as to how Soriano led Spanair into bankruptcy.

Thanks @bobmcfc @SWP's back @alib

Whichever figures are accurate, it's very clear that we won't get close to selling this game out. Based on the competition, the opposition and the price, I think we're in broad agreement that the club have essentially made the decision to increase revenue by around £250k, at the expense of pricing out 10,000 fans who would have attended if the prices were lower. That to me is absolutely startling in its short-sightedness.

The people making these decisions are not stupid. They know it won't get close to selling out at that price. They know full well that they are pricing out tens of thousands of fans. They also know that as a one off game they are likely to get a higher revenue by charging the higher price, even if 10,000 less people turn up. It's as if it's a computer generated decision, based on an algorithm to maximise revenue irrespective of the knock on effects to fans. It's the kind of decision Mike Ashley would make.

What price can you put on alienating tens of thousands of fans? Fans who are already disillusioned with the Champions League, and many who are disillusioned with the way the team is playing this season. This was an opportunity for the club to re-engage with these fans, get them excited for the season, and the Champions League. Instead they've chosen the ruthless profiteering approach.

Maybe it's naive to think football is any different from any other commercial enterprise, but I certainly feel about City differently to how I feel about Apple, or EDF Energy, or PG Tips, or whatever. I was brought up with no choice but to support City. I went for 20 odd years out of blind loyalty when we were absolute shite, we now have a great team who I love but I feel some of the executives at the club don't give a flying fuck about our history and the sense of loyalty our fans have. We may not have a history littered with trophies like Barcelona or The Evil Empire, but I'm a 4th generation City fan, I had no choice, it's in my blood. I'm not a customer, I'm a supporter, I'm loyal to a fault, but it seems the club are using that loyalty that I and tens of thousands of others have and are exploiting it to the maximum degree so they can feel proud of themselves when they file the annual accounts.

It's absolutely sickening to think they could have negotiated a 0.5% reduction in Raheem Sterlings transfer fee and charged £35 a ticket for this match instead of £55 and 10,000 extra fans could have enjoyed the occasion and the club would be no worse off financially.

 

[squirtyflower]

Thanks @bobmcfc @SWP's back @alib

Whichever figures are accurate, it's very clear that we won't get close to selling this game out. Based on the competition, the opposition and the price, I think we're in broad agreement that the club have essentially made the decision to increase revenue by around £250k, at the expense of pricing out 10,000 fans who would have attended if the prices were lower. That to me is absolutely startling in its short-sightedness.

The people making these decisions are not stupid. They know it won't get close to selling out at that price. They know full well that they are pricing out tens of thousands of fans. They also know that as a one off game they are likely to get a higher revenue by charging the higher price, even if 10,000 less people turn up. It's as if it's a computer generated decision, based on an algorithm to maximise revenue irrespective of the knock on effects to fans. It's the kind of decision Mike Ashley would make.

What price can you put on alienating tens of thousands of fans? Fans who are already disillusioned with the Champions League, and many who are disillusioned with the way the team is playing this season. This was an opportunity for the club to re-engage with these fans, get them excited for the season, and the Champions League. Instead they've chosen the ruthless profiteering approach.

Maybe it's naive to think football is any different from any other commercial enterprise, but I certainly feel about City differently to how I feel about Apple, or EDF Energy, or PG Tips, or whatever. I was brought up with no choice but to support City. I went for 20 odd years out of blind loyalty when we were absolute shite, we now have a great team who I love but I feel some of the executives at the club don't give a flying fuck about our history and the sense of loyalty our fans have. We may not have a history littered with trophies like Barcelona or The Evil Empire, but I'm a 4th generation City fan, I had no choice, it's in my blood. I'm not a customer, I'm a supporter, I'm loyal to a fault, but it seems the club are using that loyalty that I and tens of thousands of others have and are exploiting it to the maximum degree so they can feel proud of themselves when they file the annual accounts.

It's absolutely sickening to think they could have negotiated a 0.5% reduction in Raheem Sterlings transfer fee and charged £35 a ticket for this match instead of £55 and 10,000 extra fans could have enjoyed the occasion and the club would be no worse off financially.

brilliant

 

[Corky]

It is different to any other business, they can sell the game out to one off fans who will never come again and damage future attendances in all comps. The North Stand development in July could be compromised.

 

[paulchapo]

Thanks @bobmcfc @SWP's back @alib

Whichever figures are accurate, it's very clear that we won't get close to selling this game out. Based on the competition, the opposition and the price, I think we're in broad agreement that the club have essentially made the decision to increase revenue by around £250k, at the expense of pricing out 10,000 fans who would have attended if the prices were lower. That to me is absolutely startling in its short-sightedness.

The people making these decisions are not stupid. They know it won't get close to selling out at that price. They know full well that they are pricing out tens of thousands of fans. They also know that as a one off game they are likely to get a higher revenue by charging the higher price, even if 10,000 less people turn up. It's as if it's a computer generated decision, based on an algorithm to maximise revenue irrespective of the knock on effects to fans. It's the kind of decision Mike Ashley would make.

What price can you put on alienating tens of thousands of fans? Fans who are already disillusioned with the Champions League, and many who are disillusioned with the way the team is playing this season. This was an opportunity for the club to re-engage with these fans, get them excited for the season, and the Champions League. Instead they've chosen the ruthless profiteering approach.

Maybe it's naive to think football is any different from any other commercial enterprise, but I certainly feel about City differently to how I feel about Apple, or EDF Energy, or PG Tips, or whatever. I was brought up with no choice but to support City. I went for 20 odd years out of blind loyalty when we were absolute shite, we now have a great team who I love but I feel some of the executives at the club don't give a flying fuck about our history and the sense of loyalty our fans have. We may not have a history littered with trophies like Barcelona or The Evil Empire, but I'm a 4th generation City fan, I had no choice, it's in my blood. I'm not a customer, I'm a supporter, I'm loyal to a fault, but it seems the club are using that loyalty that I and tens of thousands of others have and are exploiting it to the maximum degree so they can feel proud of themselves when they file the annual accounts.

It's absolutely sickening to think they could have negotiated a 0.5% reduction in Raheem Sterlings transfer fee and charged £35 a ticket for this match instead of £55 and 10,000 extra fans could have enjoyed the occasion and the club would be no worse off financially.

As others have said brilliant! You need to send that and your other post to every fucker at the club it can be sent to!

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Thanks @bobmcfc @SWP's back @alib

Whichever figures are accurate, it's very clear that we won't get close to selling this game out. Based on the competition, the opposition and the price, I think we're in broad agreement that the club have essentially made the decision to increase revenue by around £250k, at the expense of pricing out 10,000 fans who would have attended if the prices were lower. That to me is absolutely startling in its short-sightedness.

The people making these decisions are not stupid. They know it won't get close to selling out at that price. They know full well that they are pricing out tens of thousands of fans. They also know that as a one off game they are likely to get a higher revenue by charging the higher price, even if 10,000 less people turn up. It's as if it's a computer generated decision, based on an algorithm to maximise revenue irrespective of the knock on effects to fans. It's the kind of decision Mike Ashley would make.

What price can you put on alienating tens of thousands of fans? Fans who are already disillusioned with the Champions League, and many who are disillusioned with the way the team is playing this season. This was an opportunity for the club to re-engage with these fans, get them excited for the season, and the Champions League. Instead they've chosen the ruthless profiteering approach.

Maybe it's naive to think football is any different from any other commercial enterprise, but I certainly feel about City differently to how I feel about Apple, or EDF Energy, or PG Tips, or whatever. I was brought up with no choice but to support City. I went for 20 odd years out of blind loyalty when we were absolute shite, we now have a great team who I love but I feel some of the executives at the club don't give a flying fuck about our history and the sense of loyalty our fans have. We may not have a history littered with trophies like Barcelona or The Evil Empire, but I'm a 4th generation City fan, I had no choice, it's in my blood. I'm not a customer, I'm a supporter, I'm loyal to a fault, but it seems the club are using that loyalty that I and tens of thousands of others have and are exploiting it to the maximum degree so they can feel proud of themselves when they file the annual accounts.

It's absolutely sickening to think they could have negotiated a 0.5% reduction in Raheem Sterlings transfer fee and charged £35 a ticket for this match instead of £55 and 10,000 extra fans could have enjoyed the occasion and the club would be no worse off financially.

It's the long term effect they are gambling on. It's like a casino at the minute. They are totally gambling on the Pep effect being able to sell tickets. As others have said though, once you break the habit you are not going to go back. How many people are going to leave the CL scheme next season. 500? 1000? 5000? Who knows. I'm out as are many others reading these threads. Will a day come when you can't leave it? It's compulsory at two of our rivals so why not us?

I was sat there the other night for only the 2nd time in the CL this season despite paying for all 4 being a member of the cup scheme. Work got in the way of the other 2! I was wondering what the fuck I was doing there after 20 mins.

They won't care initially. I wouldn't have thought I or the hundreds of others who have been in the scheme since the first game in this competition and will now drift away will be at the forefront of their next ticket pricing meeting. It will be back slaps all around and end of year bonuses for the policy makers when they count the pennies. Who cares when Pep is coming? People will fill the seats because it's Pep!

They may be right and it may stay that way for years but they only have to look at our near neighbours to see how these high ticket prices and other conditions start to affect attendances as soon as things are not as rosy on the playing field.

It's a very short sighted approach and one that could spectacularly backfire in the long run.

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

Can't believe how much they have decided to charge I really wanna go like any other game but im thinking of leaving it. Undecided what to do first..

 

[u2fme2]

Was so looking forward to going to this game with my daughter but not a
chance at these prices. Such a shame and wasted opportunity by the club yet again.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I have posted many times about the fincancial impact or lack of impact that reducing ticket prices would have on overal revenue. It is crazy to alienate fans like this and reduce the attendance. Absolute madness and I'm talking about the basic economics of it, the moral issue around exploiting a loyal fan base is another issue.

I would fully support a protest of some sort.

 

[bladdered]

This is really weird. Just cannot understand the logic behind the pricing unless the club are confident that they have enough agency/tourist sales. It could be a bigger disaster than the buy one get one free of last year. Only thing I know for sure is that me and 6 other season card holders wont be going.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Maybe the club are planning on giving everyone a scar who attends the match and they factored this into the price?