Time To Back The Manager...

tolmie's hairdoo said:
It's exactly the reason Mancini and Cook fell out over the summer.

ADUG are still new to this game, Roberto knows it inside out.

ADUG are not beyond making mistakes, as they showed by showing faith in Mark Hughes.

They should forget what other people may think of us and go and finish the job they started.

That means De Rossi, Cavani, Hazard and Hummels.

Then they can sit back and watch the fruits of their fabulous generosity for years to come and without having to spend for another five years.

Or are we actually admitting that FFPR has done what it intended, to keep Manchester City down?

Shiekh Mansour offered £108m for one fucking player, imagine now what we could do in this window.

What are we waiting for, take us.
Couldnt agree more, the title is in touching distance, give the manager what he wants.
 
Sigster100 said:
Clever use of only part of my thread. The point I made was that this team is very capable of winning the title and I have faith in the players and the manager. We are clear at the top and in better form over the past 6 league matches than our closest rivals...some crisis eh? What about the thought that new players at this stage could possibly be disruptive..not in a personality way but in terms of introducing someone new into our team/system? Look at Silva..a truly awesome player but when he first came to the premier league he struggled for several games. Just saying that it could be risky and also that we have a squad that is more than good enough already.
Mancini doesnt have the players he feels we need. If you have faith in him trust his judgement. He sees the players day in day out.

I would be very surprised if Utd dont strengthen this window Fergie would be devasted to lose the title to us.
 
Mancini is clearly a perfectionist. He should allowed (within reason)to sign the players he wants as he feels they would improve us.

IMO we are closer to the title than I thought we would be this year and I would hate for it to be lost because we did not spend a few quid.
 
BillyShears said:
franksinatra said:
I understand exactly what you are saying, in a sense it seems churlish to not spend when we are so close to realising the dream and that is exactly the position of the manager. One or two more players as cover and the squad should be complete.

I know in a sense I am repeating myself but the club has clearly set a budget now and if the press are to be believed Aguero was lined up as a replacement for Tevez, with the latters change of mind probably meaning the contingency money has alredy been spent. At some point I suppose the club had to say no.

I think at the moment we find ourselves suffering from a very unfotunate set of circumstances. African nations cup, suspension of the club captain has left us very short at the back. However Savic wasnt cheap and at nine million you would expect his development to be advanced enough to fill in for a small number of games.

Furthermore I would have preferred to see the youngsters utilised more, two years ago Boyata stepped up against United in the semi and so you would think with two years more experience he could be utilised, with Owen Coyle stating he could be recalled by City. I suppose you cannot cover for every eventuality and I would be surprised if we could purchase a player who would walk into the first team, otherwise he will just be fattening the squad.

The problem with young players is you just don't know what you're going to get unless they are truly in the top bracket. The rags and Phil Jones is a great example. The Vidic injury has cost them because Jones isn't as good as they thought he was. They now run the very real risk of finishing 3rd if Spurs do better in their upcoming tough run of games than the rags do. It shows that being unlucky with injuries or suspensions can be extremely costly.

Another thing which I think is important is that Mancini wouldn't be going on and on about the lack of bodies he has if he didn't know exactly which players he wants. So it comes back to do you spend now, or do you spend in the summer.

Regarding Tevez/Aguero. My understanding is that Mancini said last summer that he absolutely wanted 4 strikers. Being out of the CL has probably meant that he's not as bothered about that, but lets for arguments sake say we were still in that competition - I imagine Mancini would be even more stressed, and even more vocal in his need for more players.

I am Bobbys biggest fan but if he felt there was shortcomings in the squad he should have brought other players in, within the budget provided. Its an unprecedented situation for us of late with injuries, but can you buy players on the premise, to replace players missing in the short term?

Like you said this is not unique to Bobby, Arsenal are crying out for a centre half, United for a creative midfielder its part of the game and a situation the manager has to contend with. When the African nations cup is over, we will have Kompany, Lescott, Tours and Savic, with the option of Micah to fill in or if still available Nedum. Would we need another player then ? Which probably refelcts the clubs viewpoint.<br /><br />-- Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 pm --<br /><br />
Happy Feet said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
It's exactly the reason Mancini and Cook fell out over the summer.

ADUG are still new to this game, Roberto knows it inside out.

ADUG are not beyond making mistakes, as they showed by showing faith in Mark Hughes.

They should forget what other people may think of us and go and finish the job they started.

That means De Rossi, Cavani, Hazard and Hummels.

Then they can sit back and watch the fruits of their fabulous generosity for years to come and without having to spend for another five years.

Or are we actually admitting that FFPR has done what it intended, to keep Manchester City down?

Shiekh Mansour offered £108m for one fucking player, imagine now what we could do in this window.

What are we waiting for, take us.
Couldnt agree more, the title is in touching distance, give the manager what he wants.

The addition of those players would cause more problems than they are worth. City of all clubs, now, should know the problem of having so many top players not getting a game. I would prefer us not to go down the same road again. Many on this forum consider Dzeko a confience player who needs game time, De Jong also. The addition of even more players will not improve this situtaion.

Remember Rodney Marsh :-)
 
franksinatra said:
I am Bobbys biggest fan but if he felt there was shortcomings in the squad he should have brought other players in, within the budget provided. Its an unprecedented situation for us of late with injuries, but can you buy players on the premise, to replace players missing in the short term?

This has been going on since the summer to be fair. Mancini asked for another defender and another midfield player if Carlos was staying. The club told him he needed to move on Neds, Bridge, etc... before he could do that which is why he spent all of August imploring them to "find a solution".

Like you said this is not unique to Bobby, Arsenal are crying out for a centre half, United for a creative midfielder its part of the game and a situation the manager has to contend with. When the African nations cup is over, we will have Kompany, Lescott, Tours and Savic, with the option of Micah to fill in or if still available Nedum. Would we need another player then ? Which probably refelcts the clubs viewpoint.

The thing is I view this season as unique. We have an unprecedented opportunity with Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool/rags all in transition to win the league. All those clubs can finish this season potless and it won't effect their managers or their stature as a club. The situation is different for us and will continue to be until we win a league IMO...

BTW... thanks for the interesting and thoughtful discussion!
 
franksinatra said:
The addition of those players would cause more problems than they are worth.

I agree, it would be a woman watching us romp to the title, I'd much prefer squeaky bum time in May....
 
Rammy Blue said:
franksinatra said:
The addition of those players would cause more problems than they are worth.

I agree, it would be a woman watching us romp to the title, I'd much prefer squeaky bum time in May....

Does that mean you agree with my OP ..... ;)

BTW.... if you're going to be at the Spurs match on Sunday there's a bit of a meeting being organized if you fancy a pint and a bit of friendly banter!
 
I can see both sides on this. I'm a City fan, I want the best players at our club. But I also believe that we have the best squad in the league. If ADUG want to exercise at least some prudence then I support them.

If we don't win the league we can't say we didn't have the squad for it. We're out of the FA Cup and Champs League.
 
Rammy Blue said:
franksinatra said:
The addition of those players would cause more problems than they are worth.

I agree, it would be a woman watching us romp to the title, I'd much prefer squeaky bum time in May....

Are watching it implode as more egos are put into the dressing room, cliques form, bitching and backstabbing. Players losing form and fell left out in the cold by not even getting a place on the bench. More to management than just buying all the best players
 
Deja vu comes to mind

If you look back to last Jan the exact same thread was being done with the same things being said.

It's twitchy bum time and the boss is always going to want more regardless, afterall it's his job on the line at the end of the day.

The Tevez saga is certainly holding things up and i'm sure we'll see movement on that soon, it's priority

In my humble opinion, i said at the start of the season our squad was good enough to win the League and that hasn't changed.

Our owners may have thought the same?
 

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