Time To Back The Manager...

[Anonymous]

Not of Bobby's making but you can fully understand the position of the club.

Well, I do and I don't. Which is why I started the thread. For the record I agree with almost the entirety of your post.

When it comes to the club's position, I don't understand why having already invested close to half a billion in the playing squad, they are now ignoring a couple of deficiencies in the squad in such a crucial season.

It's not so much that I think we can't win the league with the squad we have - far from it. I think we will win the league. However I'd like a little more security, as I imagine Mancini would, that a couple of injuries or suspensions don't derail our season.

As I said, it's not about "stop gap" players. It's about addressing a deficiency now rather than in the summer. Paying an extra X million for a player you're going to sign anyway, isn't always a bad thing if it's the right player.

 

[Anonymous]

Having followed the team for forty years, I still pinch mysef when I look at the players running out in their blue shirts every week. Think a few more people on here should do the same and not constantly want more and more and more.

Sorry, but that's completely the wrong attitude to take and thankfully our manager won't take it. We've achieved so far the sum of sweet fuck all in footballing terms. One paltry FA Cup. If we don't win the league this season there will a lot of mocking from the football world and a lot of people saying "see, they spent all that and they still can't win the league". It will have an adverse effect on player recruitment in the summer. It will increase the pressure on Mancini tenfold next season.

I can completely understand why Mancini is stressing about wanting a couple more players. Winning the league this season will put us on the map just as much as the converse happening will be a huge blow...

 

[Timmmmahhhh]

Samba - use to EPL, local, dominent, close to Mario.

Nick Barmby is also used to the Premier League.

Harry Kewell could fit back in, he has the experience.

Oh, and Samba isn't good enough.

Samba would get in most sides in the Prem and Europe. He's much better than many think he is.

Not doubting his ability, I don't think he is good enough for our first team and wouldn't be happy on the bench, would be £12m-£15m we don't need to spend.

Just my opinion.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Nick Barmby is also used to the Premier League.

Harry Kewell could fit back in, he has the experience.

Oh, and Samba isn't good enough.

Samba would get in most sides in the Prem and Europe. He's much better than many think he is.

Not doubting his ability, I don't think he is good enough for our first team and wouldn't be happy on the bench, would be £12m-£15m we don't need to spend.

Just my opinion.

Samba's a good player and would definitely get into the side at the moment. However we have to be buying players for the next phase of our development, which is challenging for the Champions League. I'm not sure he's that level. ADUG must certainly have learnt their lesson about having players on the books we've moved on from.

If we're buying players now I believe they have to be world class.

 

[franksinatra]

Not of Bobby's making but you can fully understand the position of the club.

Well, I do and I don't. Which is why I started the thread. For the record I agree with almost the entirety of your post.

When it comes to the club's position, I don't understand why having already invested close to half a billion in the playing squad, they are now ignoring a couple of deficiencies in the squad in such a crucial season.

It's not so much that I think we can't win the league with the squad we have - far from it. I think we will win the league. However I'd like a little more security, as I imagine Mancini would, that a couple of injuries or suspensions don't derail our season.

As I said, it's not about "stop gap" players. It's about addressing a deficiency now rather than in the summer. Paying an extra X million for a player you're going to sign anyway, isn't always a bad thing if it's the right player.

I understand exactly what you are saying, in a sense it seems churlish to not spend when we are so close to realising the dream and that is exactly the position of the manager. One or two more players as cover and the squad should be complete.

I know in a sense I am repeating myself but the club has clearly set a budget now and if the press are to be believed Aguero was lined up as a replacement for Tevez, with the latters change of mind probably meaning the contingency money has alredy been spent. At some point I suppose the club had to say no.

I think at the moment we find ourselves suffering from a very unfotunate set of circumstances. African nations cup, suspension of the club captain has left us very short at the back. However Savic wasnt cheap and at nine million you would expect his development to be advanced enough to fill in for a small number of games.

Furthermore I would have preferred to see the youngsters utilised more, two years ago Boyata stepped up against United in the semi and so you would think with two years more experience he could be utilised, with Owen Coyle stating he could be recalled by City. I suppose you cannot cover for every eventuality and I would be surprised if we could purchase a player who would walk into the first team, otherwise he will just be fattening the squad.

 

[Anonymous]

I understand exactly what you are saying, in a sense it seems churlish to not spend when we are so close to realising the dream and that is exactly the position of the manager. One or two more players as cover and the squad should be complete.

I know in a sense I am repeating myself but the club has clearly set a budget now and if the press are to be believed Aguero was lined up as a replacement for Tevez, with the latters change of mind probably meaning the contingency money has alredy been spent. At some point I suppose the club had to say no.

I think at the moment we find ourselves suffering from a very unfotunate set of circumstances. African nations cup, suspension of the club captain has left us very short at the back. However Savic wasnt cheap and at nine million you would expect his development to be advanced enough to fill in for a small number of games.

Furthermore I would have preferred to see the youngsters utilised more, two years ago Boyata stepped up against United in the semi and so you would think with two years more experience he could be utilised, with Owen Coyle stating he could be recalled by City. I suppose you cannot cover for every eventuality and I would be surprised if we could purchase a player who would walk into the first team, otherwise he will just be fattening the squad.

The problem with young players is you just don't know what you're going to get unless they are truly in the top bracket. The rags and Phil Jones is a great example. The Vidic injury has cost them because Jones isn't as good as they thought he was. They now run the very real risk of finishing 3rd if Spurs do better in their upcoming tough run of games than the rags do. It shows that being unlucky with injuries or suspensions can be extremely costly.

Another thing which I think is important is that Mancini wouldn't be going on and on about the lack of bodies he has if he didn't know exactly which players he wants. So it comes back to do you spend now, or do you spend in the summer.

Regarding Tevez/Aguero. My understanding is that Mancini said last summer that he absolutely wanted 4 strikers. Being out of the CL has probably meant that he's not as bothered about that, but lets for arguments sake say we were still in that competition - I imagine Mancini would be even more stressed, and even more vocal in his need for more players.

 

[Plain Speaking]

...Boyata stepped up against United in the semi and so you would think with two years more experience he could be utilised, with Owen Coyle stating he could be recalled by City...

Seems funny us considering recalling a player that cant get in Bolton's first team even though they have sold Cahill.

Spurs and Liverpool are critical games, Savic looks shaky. If Lescott was better the situation wouldnt be as bad.

We should back Mancini.

 

[Sigster100]

Having followed the team for forty years, I still pinch mysef when I look at the players running out in their blue shirts every week. Think a few more people on here should do the same and not constantly want more and more and more.

Sorry, but that's completely the wrong attitude to take and thankfully our manager won't take it. We've achieved so far the sum of sweet fuck all in footballing terms. One paltry FA Cup. If we don't win the league this season there will a lot of mocking from the football world and a lot of people saying "see, they spent all that and they still can't win the league". It will have an adverse effect on player recruitment in the summer. It will increase the pressure on Mancini tenfold next season.

I can completely understand why Mancini is stressing about wanting a couple more players. Winning the league this season will put us on the map just as much as the converse happening will be a huge blow...

Clever use of only part of my thread. The point I made was that this team is very capable of winning the title and I have faith in the players and the manager. We are clear at the top and in better form over the past 6 league matches than our closest rivals...some crisis eh? What about the thought that new players at this stage could possibly be disruptive..not in a personality way but in terms of introducing someone new into our team/system? Look at Silva..a truly awesome player but when he first came to the premier league he struggled for several games. Just saying that it could be risky and also that we have a squad that is more than good enough already.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's exactly the reason Mancini and Cook fell out over the summer.

ADUG are still new to this game, Roberto knows it inside out.

ADUG are not beyond making mistakes, as they showed by showing faith in Mark Hughes.

They should forget what other people may think of us and go and finish the job they started.

That means De Rossi, Cavani, Hazard and Hummels.

Then they can sit back and watch the fruits of their fabulous generosity for years to come and without having to spend for another five years.

Or are we actually admitting that FFPR has done what it intended, to keep Manchester City down?

Shiekh Mansour offered £108m for one fucking player, imagine now what we could do in this window.

What are we waiting for, take us.

 

[Anonymous]

It's exactly the reason Mancini and Cook fell out over the summer.

ADUG are still new to this game, Roberto knows it inside out.

ADUG are not beyond making mistakes, as they showed by showing faith in Mark Hughes.

They should forget what other people may think of us and go and finish the job they started.

That means De Rossi, Cavani, Hazard and Hummels.

Then they can sit back and watch the fruits of their fabulous generosity for years to come and without having to spend for another five years.

Or are we actually admitting that FFPR has done what it intended, to keep Manchester City down?

Shiekh Mansour offered £108m for one fucking player, imagine now what we could do in this window.

What are we waiting for, take us.

Get back on Twitter. There's a Cabal meeting being organized for Sunday and your presence is going to be compulsory rather than optional.... :)

Oh, and great post. Exactly what I was trying to say!