BayernMan said:
Cobwebcat said:
Ranking
Club Elo
1 Barcelona 2094
2 Bayern 2085
3 Real Madrid 2029
4 Dortmund 1945
5 Chelsea 1910
6 Man United 1894
7 Atlético 1892
8 Man City 1874
9 Arsenal 1871
10 Leverkusen 1870
11 Porto 1863
12 Paris SG 1857
13 Tottenham 1831
14 Juventus 1829
15 Zenit 1802
16 Everton 1795
The top non european side would be around 30 say Cruzerio of Brazil.
In what universe is Juve behind Spurs?
Given that one game can mean a 20 odd point change 2 points are neither here no there. I know how these rankings are calculated and they are objective and accurate.
A similar ranking
http://www.euroclubindex.com/ also has them very close. It's possible you are over-rating Italian football.
If you look at
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/top-teams/basics.html they are also side by side.
I guarantee you will not get everyone to agree on any order but
http://clubelo.com/ has been proven the best at predicting who would beat who in real time. Of course people always think they know better which is why the bookies are so rich ;-)
You can see the subjective nature of people's predictions in that the rags are underestimated. Which, on a city forum, is to be expected but still incorrect IMHO.