Top 10 teams in the world at present

Cobwebcat said:
Ranking

Club Elo
1 Barcelona 2094
2 Bayern 2085
3 Real Madrid 2029
4 Dortmund 1945
5 Chelsea 1910
6 Man United 1894
7 Atlético 1892
8 Man City 1874
9 Arsenal 1871
10 Leverkusen 1870
11 Porto 1863
12 Paris SG 1857
13 Tottenham 1831
14 Juventus 1829
15 Zenit 1802
16 Everton 1795


The top non european side would be around 30 say Cruzerio of Brazil.
In what universe is Juve behind Spurs?
 
United is nowhere being a top 10 in the world. City is arguably a top 8 team in the world.
 
Dunno how official this is...clubworldranking.com have it as

1 bayern
2 Madrid
3 barca
4 Chelsea
5 Dortmund
6 Atletico
7 benfica
8 arsenal
9 PSG
10 rags
11 spuds
12 Atletico mineiro
13 Valencia
14 Seoul
15 juventus
16 man city
17 Corinthians
18 gremio
19 Leverkusen
20 lazio
 
1. Bayern Munich
2. Barcelona
3. Real Madrid
4. Dortmund
5. Chelsea
6. Athletico Madrid
7. Manchester City
8. Juventus
9. PSG
10. Arsenal

I think we're better than chelsea and our results will show that by xmas. but at the mo they have to go above us for recent results.
 
BayernMan said:
Cobwebcat said:
Ranking

Club Elo
1 Barcelona 2094
2 Bayern 2085
3 Real Madrid 2029
4 Dortmund 1945
5 Chelsea 1910
6 Man United 1894
7 Atlético 1892
8 Man City 1874
9 Arsenal 1871
10 Leverkusen 1870
11 Porto 1863
12 Paris SG 1857
13 Tottenham 1831
14 Juventus 1829
15 Zenit 1802
16 Everton 1795


The top non european side would be around 30 say Cruzerio of Brazil.
In what universe is Juve behind Spurs?

Given that one game can mean a 20 odd point change 2 points are neither here no there. I know how these rankings are calculated and they are objective and accurate.

A similar ranking http://www.euroclubindex.com/ also has them very close. It's possible you are over-rating Italian football.

If you look at http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/top-teams/basics.html they are also side by side.

I guarantee you will not get everyone to agree on any order but http://clubelo.com/ has been proven the best at predicting who would beat who in real time. Of course people always think they know better which is why the bookies are so rich ;-)

You can see the subjective nature of people's predictions in that the rags are underestimated. Which, on a city forum, is to be expected but still incorrect IMHO.
 
Cobwebcat said:
BayernMan said:
Cobwebcat said:
Ranking

Club Elo
1 Barcelona 2094
2 Bayern 2085
3 Real Madrid 2029
4 Dortmund 1945
5 Chelsea 1910
6 Man United 1894
7 Atlético 1892
8 Man City 1874
9 Arsenal 1871
10 Leverkusen 1870
11 Porto 1863
12 Paris SG 1857
13 Tottenham 1831
14 Juventus 1829
15 Zenit 1802
16 Everton 1795


The top non european side would be around 30 say Cruzerio of Brazil.
In what universe is Juve behind Spurs?

Given that one game can mean a 20 odd point change 2 points are neither here no there. I know how these rankings are calculated and they are objective and accurate.

A similar ranking http://www.euroclubindex.com/ also has them very close. It's possible you are over-rating Italian football.

If you look at http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/top-teams/basics.html they are also side by side.

I guarantee you will not get everyone to agree on any order but http://clubelo.com/ has been proven the best at predicting who would beat who in real time. Of course people always think they know better which is why the bookies are so rich ;-)

You can see the subjective nature of people's predictions in that the rags are underestimated. Which, on a city forum, is to be expected but still incorrect IMHO.
Porto and Leverkusen better than PSG load of rubbish worst than the fifa rankings.
 
Kun Aguero said:
supercrystal7 said:
I think a lot of people are massively overrating PSG. They have a lot of superstar players, but they are too many big ego's and their results depend more of Zlatan than the team.


Sirgu's class, the full backs are pretty wank to be fair but Alex, Thiago Silva and Marquinhos is better than anything City have, Motta, Matuidi, Verratti are class in the middle. The middle. Cavani and then one of Lavezzi/Pastore/Lucas behind Zlatgod is wank worthy. They'd beat City over 2 legs.

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greasedupdeafguy said:
Cobwebcat said:
BayernMan said:
In what universe is Juve behind Spurs?

Given that one game can mean a 20 odd point change 2 points are neither here no there. I know how these rankings are calculated and they are objective and accurate.

A similar ranking http://www.euroclubindex.com/ also has them very close. It's possible you are over-rating Italian football.

If you look at http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/top-teams/basics.html they are also side by side.

I guarantee you will not get everyone to agree on any order but http://clubelo.com/ has been proven the best at predicting who would beat who in real time. Of course people always think they know better which is why the bookies are so rich ;-)

You can see the subjective nature of people's predictions in that the rags are underestimated. Which, on a city forum, is to be expected but still incorrect IMHO.
Porto and Leverkusen better than PSG load of rubbish worst than the fifa rankings.

Clubs like PSG and Monaco have benefitted from large injections of cash recently which means they are unique cases and take longer to climb the rankings than they should. PSG will soon overtake a few teams above them but people always underestimate Porto for some reason.

The rankings are nothing like FIFAs (which are awful) they are more like http://www.eloratings.net/ which are much better.
 
Updated:

Club Elo

1 Barcelona 2094
2 Bayern 2087
3 Real Madrid 2032
4 Dortmund 1950
5 Atlético 1901
6 Man United 1900
7 Chelsea 1887
8 Man City 1880
9 Arsenal 1880
10 Paris SG 1860
11 Porto 1854
12 Leverkusen 1852
13 Juventus 1834
14 Tottenham 1832
15 Everton 1794
16 Zenit 1794
 
SPIDERBOY said:
Dunno how official this is...clubworldranking.com have it as

1 bayern
2 Madrid
3 barca
4 Chelsea
5 Dortmund
6 Atletico
7 benfica
8 arsenal
9 PSG
10 rags
11 spuds
12 Atletico mineiro
13 Valencia
14 Seoul
15 juventus
16 man city
17 Corinthians
18 gremio
19 Leverkusen
20 lazio

That site is very wrong....Seoul :-)

Its almost impossible to compare across continents but the best attempt is:

http://www.footballdatabase.com/worldrankings.php?Rnk=1

Really I would stick with Clubelo and the assessment that the top ranked non-european club would not feature until you hit around rank 30
 

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