Tories win Copeland b-election.

bluemoonmatt said:
Very well put. I hazard a guess that a 2005 Blair (ie not at his prime) would trounce todays Theresa the Appeaser. Fuck it even the widely despised Brown only got ousted in a hung parliament. It so fucking clear that an increasingly left leaning Labour movement is in an alarming state of regression. Its a fact that 'New Labour' appealed to the electorate not the £3 a member socialist worker/momentum hijacked Communist lite we now have under dear leader Corbyn.
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Spot on mate.

It's incredible when you think that Cameron was not a popular Prime Minister by any means, not helped at all by the Tories' decision to subject the country to 5 years of austerity having taken over from Gordon idiot Brown. Incredibly, Cameron managed to win a second term and it was blindingly obvious for all to see that a big contributing factor in that - if not THE contributing factor was that Ed Milliband was too far left. Had his brother stood, for example, I doubt we'd be having this conversation since doubtless Labour would be in power.

And then INCREDIBLY, Labour go and elect a leader even MORE left than the one who lost for being too left. And they are somehow surprised they are 18% behind in the polls? If Corbyn had an atom of charisma, charm or anything else going for him, it might not be quite so desperate, but sadly he does not. His Steptoe and Sons image only compounds the problem. Labour could not have hit the self-destruct button any harder if they tried.
 
hilts said:
You said he was principled not me, I haven't even mentioned other parties or politicians so not sure where you even get that from. It's always a telling sign when someone tries to deflect. But but but other politicians aren't very honest you say. Doesn't cut it really I'm afraid.
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Well I'm glad you cleared that up for me then!
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Labour as a party has gone awry. As a kid growing up on a council estate, everyone's dad worked, either in factories
or a trade, we all read the Daily Mirror, folk were generally patriotic and had royalist leanings, but virtually all of them
voted Labour. Nowadays, Labour MP's are invariably middle class, career politicians, have no experience of their core vote,
and eschew these values. Then we have the sickening virtue signalling procession of multi millionaire luvvie actors.
settled in their Hampstead mansions lecturing folk about how racist and uncaring they are, people are sick and tired of
this type, the party needs to take a long hard look at itself, or it's gone.
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Unfortunately for them there isnt enough dead heads and public sector workers in marginal seats to get them a win anymore. Add in the Scottish problem and it isn't looking very good. Serves them right really.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Labour as a party has gone awry. As a kid growing up on a council estate, everyone's dad worked, either in factories
or a trade, we all read the Daily Mirror, folk were generally patriotic and had royalist leanings, but virtually all of them
voted Labour. Nowadays, Labour MP's are invariably middle class, career politicians, have no experience of their core vote,
and eschew these values. Then we have the sickening virtue signalling procession of multi millionaire luvvie actors.
settled in their Hampstead mansions lecturing folk about how racist and uncaring they are, people are sick and tired of
this type, the party needs to take a long hard look at itself, or it's gone.
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Cracking description of Labours core vote mate most of us had working fathers and went out to work real work mind, the Labour activists came from same area's. What we have today is university leavers who've never done jack shit telling us how we should elect Jezza as our leader when anybody with an ounce of common sense knows he hasn't got a cat in hell's chance. He might get elected as Labour leader by the 3 quid pink hair ring in nose brigade but the more support he gets off them the more core vote he loses.
 
Tuearts right boot said:
Dont know if it's been mentioned earlier in the thread but the real reason for the defeat, according to a labour spokesman was....you couldn't make this up....




Storm Doris.

Yes, apparantly most of the labour voters in the area can't afford cars and were therfore unable to vote. Classic.
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Fuck off. Surely that's made up?
 
Tuearts right boot said:
Nope, Radio 2 dinnertime news. Unless it was a fucking good wind up on behalf of the labour party.
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Must be true because as Jeremy knows best, the majority in this country are really new Trotskyists so there has to be some reason why he's lost. It must be the weather.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Must be true because as Jeremy knows best, the majority in this country are really new Trotskyists so there has to be some reason why he's lost. It must be the weather.
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He lost because he wants to lose. He is a loser. A protester , someone who is anti everything , that's who he is.
 
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