Can't be arsed arguing with you about another persons posts. However i imagine anyone who reads his posts will come to the same conclusion as me.
Just for the record..and now that online tempers have subsided a bit..
I do not condone indiscriminate violence at Football matches. .and have never done.
My point..perhaps badly made as I was in a rush when posting...is that any violence I've seen in 30 years of footy hasn't put me off attending the game I used to love. Back in the day it was more prevelant of course ..it didn't put me off going or make me whinge or start crying ...it was part of the game rightly or wrongly. There has always been violencein Derby Day as long as i can remember ..grown men and younger lads (some women too) have fought ...tempers do erupt...it's just the way it is..
As someone who has done the '"The Walk" (The Cure ) 'from a friends house in Stretford (pre match party sometines starting at 7am depending on kick off time) and back to nearly every City Trafford game over 30 years..A56/Stretford rd..mingling in with utd
fans some leary some pissed some abusive ..many quiet tourists..you had to be on your guard...every single minute..thars how it was...turn a corner (as u get near to the ground ) and the mood could change in a second
Making your way down the narrow street just before you turn into the main drag was always interesting and scuffles would break out...arrive on the utd Munich clock fore court..the fun really started. ..March forward and join the away queue and wait to be verbally abused pushed goaded spat at ridiculed ..all under the watchful eye of mounted police who struggled to maintain order as the clearly outnumbered City away contingent were prime targets for the thousands of reds walking by..Fighrs broke out often.
After the match whatever the score. ..you kept your head down .and your mouth shut.A fight could break out at any time . All the way baaach up Stretford rd until the crowd properly thinned out..reds diving into that crappy boozer...and you could finally think straight and relax....until u again bumped into dublin reds or cornwall reds parked up on side streets pissed up and waiting for the driver to get back to the vehicle. ..The edge has died down over the years but everyone going to that match knew what it entailed. ..no one ran home and started whingeing.That's how it was.
Then when the roles were reversed and they came to Maine rd...of course it's gonna kick off. You must be a clown or a Muppet to think otherwise! Speak to older reds about being ambushed in dog shit alley...Mr O.N having to Marshall his troops...but to no avail......
Anyone who thinks Derby Day violence /banter isn't just as much a part of Football as the Match day programme is living in a different world to me.Long before the keyboard warriors came to be ..some of us were walking the gauntlet ...None of us were put off by it..and not 1 single Blue I know advocates violence involving kids the elderly or infirm in any way shape or form..hope that clears up any misunderstanding, almost certainly caused by my original post.;)
