Trouble in the East Stand??

[Bluemoon115]

Fuckin discraceful.

Someone with some knowhow needs to create a standard letter that we can send en masse to bomboard GMP, MCFC, Showsec, MP's etc, because that is a fucking disgrace.

I tell you what, I'd pull a sickie on Tuesday Mr. Showsec, because one word out of line and you'll find a good few hundres fists flying at you. We outnumber you, never fucking forget that.

Bunch of power mad cunts.

This happens rarely, if ever. Let's face it, lots of people get the hump with stewards, security, bouncers, the police in all kinds of situations and the mob could always take them on given the numbers are on their side, but when did you ever see it happen? Never mind the fact that people are wary of CCTV filming their every move these days and most people don't fancy spending a night in the cells or appearing in front of the beak.

I know, I was just drunk and pissed off, it's an absolute fucking disgrace.

 

[Ricster]

For those of you who dont know, i work as a security supervisor for a large security company. Last August, while at work, i was verbally abused for 15 minutes by a male who had been unsuccessful in an interview i conducted for a position with the comnpany i worked for. The male came to my place of work and i was subjected to being called a wanker, ****, prick, fucking this, fucking that for the full duration.

Everyone has a breaking point, and after 15 minutes i had had enough of the abuse and grabbed the male by the wrist because i wanted the police to deal with him for all the verbal abuse i had been subjected to. The male pulled away and took off out of the management suite at my work. This was all witnessed by a colleague and was also on CCTV.

About an hour later i was arrested, spent 4 hrs in a cell, was charged with assault, and when it went to court was fined £200. The male who verbally abused me wasn't charged with anything, not even a public order offence. The other guys record spoke volumes. Thanks to the help of someone on here, this was sorted out.

The point to my story and experience is to show, by the law, as i have first hand experience of it, the showsec steward in this video has comitted an assault by grabbing this elderly male by the wrist. Security/Stewards have no right to arrest someone for a public order offence and that is what this man has comitted. The Showsec steward should be charged with assualt, AND WITH PETER FLETCHER BEING AN EX GMP SUPERINTENDENT, MR FLETCHER SHOULD KNOW THIS TOO, SO WE AS FANS WILL BE EXPECTING EXPECT MR PETER FLETCHER OF MCFC, TO BACK THE FAN TO THE HILT AND LOOK TO SUPPORT THE ELDERLY FAN IN PROCEEDING WITH CHARGES ON THE SHOWSEC STEWERD.

Just pointing out the difference between this story Ric and yesterday....

The elderly gentleman wasn't verbally abusing anybody.
Sure he defied orders to "sit down" but eventually he did sit down.

Yeah i realise that mate, but the only thing the old guy can get charged with is a public order offence for refusing to sit down to start with. I was just pointing out that it is against the law to put a hand on someone for what he did.

 

[scorer]

I would assume the club employ ShowSec because they can provide a large number of (supposedly) trained and SIA registered staff, which the club can't. The overhead of training and managing them would presumably be far too onerous for the 25 times a years they're needed

Peter Fletcher is not personally responsible for the behaviour of ShowSec stewards but I'd like to know what instructions have been given to them, if any, by the club. What I do know is that their actions were far more dangerous than people simply standing and very nearly caused a full scale riot. They essentially had to be rescued by the police from the consequences of their actions.

People should definitely be contacting the FSF over this and also their MP's. I know my MP, Ivan Lewis, is a Blue as is the Withington MP John Leech. Tony Lloyd is the MP for Manchester Central, which is the constituency the ground is in I believe, and he's a rag but very sound on football related stuff and on the side of the ordinary fan.

As regards the council, Chief Exec Howard Bernstein & Council Leader Richard Leese are Blues as is Paul Murphy, Chair of the GM Police Authority.

Maybe his not responsible for their Behaviour, but as head of Security he is most definitely ACCOUNTABLE for it.

And to address the last three or four posts; by definition that Fletcher works for City, they are directly implicated. City need to act.

Just imagine if we had a player who refused to play for us (never likely to happen in a million years I know) - how would the club deal with it? I would hope they would come down on him like a ton of bricks!!! Samelogic applies here.

 

[ello_jo]

That is fucking disgraceful! Every single one of the twats in that video should be sacked from COMS as they are an embarassment. Apparently there to protect people, made me angry that vid!

 

[Ricster]

I would assume the club employ ShowSec because they can provide a large number of (supposedly) trained and SIA registered staff, which the club can't. The overhead of training and managing them would presumably be far too onerous for the 25 times a years they're needed

Peter Fletcher is not personally responsible for the behaviour of ShowSec stewards but I'd like to know what instructions have been given to them, if any, by the club. What I do know is that their actions were far more dangerous than people simply standing and very nearly caused a full scale riot. They essentially had to be rescued by the police from the consequences of their actions.

People should definitely be contacting the FSF over this and also their MP's. I know my MP, Ivan Lewis, is a Blue as is the Withington MP John Leech. Tony Lloyd is the MP for Manchester Central, which is the constituency the ground is in I believe, and he's a rag but very sound on football related stuff and on the side of the ordinary fan.

As regards the council, Chief Exec Howard Bernstein & Council Leader Richard Leese are Blues as is Paul Murphy, Chair of the GM Police Authority.

Maybe his not responsible for their Behaviour, but as head of Security he is most definitely ACCOUNTABLE for it.

Especially as the fans have brought it up with Fletcher again and again.

 

[Danny St.helens CTID]

It's fletcher and showsec that need to take a long hard look at themselves not city!

City just need to warn fletcher of future conduct and sack showsec, just like tevez isn't city, fletcher isn't city

 

[mancitykid_7]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiL8l9ihyzs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube] here is one of the videos i took

 

[scorer]

It's fletcher and showsec that need to take a long hard look at themselves not city!

City just need to warn fletcher of future conduct and sack showsec, just like tevez isn't city, fletcher isn't city

He is employed by them therefore his actions and behaviours are for and on behalf of Manchester City FC.

City are implicated and can choose (or not) to do something about it.

 

[Silvas_Left_Foot]

What a disgrace unacceptable

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I would assume the club employ ShowSec because they can provide a large number of (supposedly) trained and SIA registered staff, which the club can't. The overhead of training and managing them would presumably be far too onerous for the 25 times a years they're needed

Peter Fletcher is not personally responsible for the behaviour of ShowSec stewards but I'd like to know what instructions have been given to them, if any, by the club. What I do know is that their actions were far more dangerous than people simply standing and very nearly caused a full scale riot. They essentially had to be rescued by the police from the consequences of their actions.

People should definitely be contacting the FSF over this and also their MP's. I know my MP, Ivan Lewis, is a Blue as is the Withington MP John Leech. Tony Lloyd is the MP for Manchester Central, which is the constituency the ground is in I believe, and he's a rag but very sound on football related stuff and on the side of the ordinary fan.

As regards the council, Chief Exec Howard Bernstein & Council Leader Richard Leese are Blues as is Paul Murphy, Chair of the GM Police Authority.

Maybe his not responsible for their Behaviour, but as head of Security he is most definitely ACCOUNTABLE for it.

I agree and that's what I meant to add but just had to rush out. He (I hope) isn't telling them to lay into the fans at the front of 109 but presumably is telling them to enforce the seating regulation. But you can't send out the sort of mixed messages to people that he has been doing by appearing to accept and agree that 109 is a standing/singing section then trying to clamp down on it when people take him at face value.