Two faced city fans

[mancityvstoke]

(Some) Borussia Monchengladbach fans ain't angels trust me

 

[DD]

I think you're ignoring the fact this isn't Germany and our way is different to many others on the continent.
I don't want to be nice to other fans once we're in the ground. I don't want to be side by side. I want the world to get on despite their difference of opinion but not when it comes to football. Take the rivalry away and the game loses its soul.

Interstingly, if you go to Germany, their opinion is that their game has soul whereas ours lost our soul many years ago.

The game loses it's soul when you charge £60 for tickets and have a bland, soulless atmosphere like we do most weeks. Their grounds still have atmosphere. Ours only comes out for a couple of minutes when we're winning.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Sit in 211 loads of germans all great craic and no bother at all made the game for me last night (lets not forget until seville scored most fans had this game down as dead rubber as we thought Juve will score)

People who were trying to get them kick out were a joke they were doing no harm they werent millwall or united fans just normal fans like me and you who wanted to watch there team
Even when we went 3-2 up and their hopes for europa league had gone they were sound

I completely agree with OP some blues were a joke last night
and if anyone says they shouldnt be in our end try remember the year we were in div 2 and every away game we had loads of blues in the home end
and if anyone says they shouldnt celebrate cask your minds back to Schalke and Hamburg away when we scored loads of blues jumped up or at Blackburn away when we all celebrating in their end no trouble

I would rather be sat next to 4 germans who were happy to have a good chat about the match and were asking about our songs when we sung them than an empty seat or some clown singing german bombers or in-ger-land

Maybe if we behaved like they did last night we wouldnt get treated like cattle or scum by the authorities when we play away

Bollox with your last para. The vast majority of Blues just go to the match and enjoy the game.

 

[Phil1]

Interstingly, if you go to Germany, their opinion is that their game has soul whereas ours lost our soul many years ago.

The game loses it's soul when you charge £60 for tickets and have a bland, soulless atmosphere like we do most weeks. Their grounds still have atmosphere. Ours only comes out for a couple of minutes when we're winning.

I can't disagree too much in regards to the pricing of games and the definite lack of atmosphere that comes from it.
I just can't agree that the best way forward is for opposite fans to be side by side on the terraces. I know it's probably an outdated opinion in some minds but for me, half the enjoyment of the game is the rivalry and what goes with it.

 

[S Trainor]

I was in SS Block 115, should've been sat in seat 388 Row C but couldn't as there were 60-100 BGM taking up that section. It was back and forth they gave as much as they got. It's up there with one of the best atmospheres I've experienced they were impressive.

Half the chants and frustration was aimed at how poor the security was and how long it took for stewards/police to do something. "Shall we do, Shall we do, Shall we do your job for you.." But having said that it's appalling that they even got into our section as people have said they weren't hiding the fact they were BGM fans, hats and scarves. Imagine going to a team like Galatasaray/Juventus and sitting in the home end and cheering - you'd definitely end up worse for wear.

 

[paulchapo]

has anyone challenged the club directly yet on what happened? For so many to be in there they have not just bought the odd ticket here and there,someone has sold them en block by the looks of things.

 

[northstander62]

there was a few in south stand upper, jumped up when they scored,1 had his seat kicked several times, a blue was moaning to security and threatening the lads behind me, I told him to leave them alone, my reason, whenever I been to Germany with city, schalke, Dortmund, hamburg, munich, gladbach and around dusseldorf, I and friends have been in city centre bars and pubs by grounds and never had a problem, having a great laugh in a pissed up way trying to understand each other. at the end of the game I turned around and shook their hands, they seemed a little surprised. however if they were rags, scousers or cockneys then its a different ball game

 

[davymcfc]

there was a few in south stand upper, jumped up when they scored,1 had his seat kicked several times, a blue was moaning to security and threatening the lads behind me, I told him to leave them alone, my reason, whenever I been to Germany with city, schalke, Dortmund, hamburg, munich, gladbach and around dusseldorf, I and friends have been in city centre bars and pubs by grounds and never had a problem, having a great laugh in a pissed up way trying to understand each other. at the end of the game I turned around and shook their hands, they seemed a little surprised. however if they were rags, scousers or cockneys then its a different ball game

We were saying the very same last night. The Germans have been very hospitable whenever we have traveled and they were only there to support their team. As DD also quite rightly says fans of opposite teams are mixed together for most games in certain areas of the stadium.

 

[Where is Gerry Gow?]

Whoah! picture the situation, Me & my 2 lads s/card holders 115 bottom tier South stand. I arrive @ the match Germans in our seats got told to move over to 114. My 2 lads got to there seats but were hustled to the front row. I texd 1 of my lads asking where he was? I tried to move back over to our seats in 115 & down to the front row but had no chance of meeting up with them! That is why I was so frustrated in taking it out on the AWAY fans being in the home fans section!

 

[Keepingthefaithsince1976]

One thing that everyone keeps ignoring here.

In Germany itself this happens in every single game. I've even known Dortmund v Schalke to have a section next to the away fans where you have half an d half support. In that section there is never any bother. Why can they behave there, yet seemingly not here, or maybe it is actually those that aren't used to it that can't behave, because that's the way it appeared to me last night.

Could it be that people actually learn good manners and how to behave when confronted with this thing more often?

Fulham have a neutral section. There never seems to be bother there too.

One thing is for sure, nobody can say that the odd grey area where fans are mixed destroys the atmosphere in Germany.

At the end of the day, yes there might have been some German knob heads in our end, but the vast majority weren't. There really are no excuses for any City fan to verbally abuse and physically threaten peaceful middle aged blokes or teenage girls, though, which I did see happen at one point last night.

Segregation won't ever leave the game, because there are far too many dunderheads around for that to happen, but should people stray across the boundaries, there is no need to beat them up, no need to get yourself worked up to the verge of having a stroke, and there's no need to call in stewards like some sad Evertonian crying about a player's celebration. They're just football fans like us, acting like ours (but probably more civil) when we are abroad, taking up home seats and keeping far from quiet about it. More over, they are there for a good time and do not deserve treating like criminals.

I always remember going to Anfield and loads of us dotted about everywhere going mental when Niall Quinn levelled it in injury time and Scousers coming up to us, shaking us by the hand and congratulating us on a great performance. For me, those moments are so much more memorable than getting a coin in my head for celebrating a goal in similar circumstances. Maybe that's just me gone soft, but I just live in a world where people get on despite their differences of opinion. I get the feeling that some on here should try it for themselves.

Nice one DD. Great to hear. I went in the away ends at Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. The only time I got hassle was when I had a few beers before Chelsea & jumped up when we scored. Spat on, shouted at, pushed over etc. Bunch of knobs. Who cares where fans are from or support. It's a flippin game of footy not World war 3!!!