Two teens die in motorbike crash in Cardiff resulting in riots

[mexico1970]

Last night someone on R4 said the van couldn't follow the kids as they knew the street they turned into was closed off a couple of hundred yards down.
The kids lost the police tail (if it was a tail) but why they crashed is another matter.

And the Cardiffians rioted because of that?

 

[DrBlueBob]

We don’t. They haven’t denied anything.

We don’t know all the details.

A brief shot of 2 vehicles driving along a road tells us v little.

Only certain officers are trained to pursue. A van is not a pursuit vehicle. Other drivers may follow. It’s complicated. Leave it to the experts.

Come on Bert, you've been on here long enough to know that we are the experts. :-)

 

[kaz7]

Setting fire to peoples cars and scaring everyone was out of order , regardless of what happened

 

[bert38]

Come on Bert, you've been on here long enough to know that we are the experts. :-)

Ha that’s true. The latest video doing the rounds puts any notion of a police cause to bed hopefully.

 

[aguero93:20]

And the Cardiffians rioted because of that?

That and a shortage of sheep with suitable wool for gripping after they were sheared.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

 

[DrBlueBob]

Ha that’s true. The latest video doing the rounds puts any notion of a police cause to bed hopefully.

Probably...not.

 

[paulchapo]

This doesn't look like a police pursuit to me.

 

[aguero93:20]

This doesn't look like a police pursuit to me.

Lazy **** should bring their bin in, it's obviously not collection day.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Driving 35mph in a 30mph zone is not recklessly driving is it? If it is then every driver out there is a reckless driver as who hasn’t gone 5mph over a limit?

They were on an illegal escooter which can only be used on private land on a public road with no lessons or practice. These escooters can go up to 30mph.

Two lads speeding on an escooter (check post above for latest cctv footage) is more of a danger to pedestrians and other road users than someone going 35 in a 30 so yes it is a ridiculous comparison to make.

They were not on an E scooter.
They were on an electric bike that looks like it had been de regulated to become an electric motor cycle.
If so they were committing several offences and the police were quite right to get involved.