See the thread about the new shirt and get back to me ;)
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Txiki Begiristain
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richards30
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has done a fantastic job this summer so far! credit where its due
Steady on, he's done decent but until he's signed Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo and Bale in one window the jury is still out on him!has done a fantastic job this summer so far! credit where its due
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Exactly this. Some people think all opinions are just as valid.Great post. Someone will be along shortly though to tell you that it's a forum and everyone is here to give their opinions and what's the point of having the forum if people can't give their opinions no matter how unqualified, asinine, or just simply wrong they may be! :)
PrestwichPeteMcfc
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Full backs please Mr Cheeky
S04
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See the thread about the new shirt and get back to me ;)
Three years from now and no one will even remember what the fuss was all about..
Denayer has left? Have I missed something or is this ITK news?
Fair enough, I meant left on loan.
Doesn't in the slightest detract from my point though.
his entire topic is stupid
So the criticism is that Txiki is not get rid of player quick enough and allowing them to stay too long on long contracts with high wages. Even though there where FFP amortisation reasons for this and he has brought wages down and Sheik and Arabs royals in general like to reward loyalty and success thus this partly explains the contract increases for Kolarove etc
The suggestion seems to be that we should sell players closer to there peak in the hope we get a few million more spend even more at a time when FFP was an issue. I am sure if we had an offer for players like Kolarov we would have sold them. Would they move ?
He keeps bringing the signing in and looks like doing even more.
Does he even get involved in contracts its not in the job description posted by the main critic this perhaps means he cannot get the blame for the situation at least not on his own but perhaps also not get the praise for the lower wage higher bonuses though it looks like his idea from Barcelona
He has got us the best manager around
He helps sort the academy out right and bring in the best youth players ?
Why believe the press ?
As of yet we have not lost the kids in question
Its possible that we could be surprised at who could come in for Bony Kolarove Denayer say given the lack of strikers and CB the amount of money and people pick up injuries perhaps clubs are waiting to get players or holding of so as to pay lower wages.
Perhaps we need another footballing director is his job not to help both city and all the other clubs in CFG yet the other clubs have there own man also ?
I bet no other club has a thread like this. They argue about the manager or the CEO/ Owner for signings budget but Do any complain about their DoF Yet we have perhaps the most respected and do relatively well Why ? Do we like a moan ? Does it make us look bad as fans ?
CAN SOME ANSWER MY QUESTIONS PLEASE
So the criticism is that Txiki is not get rid of player quick enough and allowing them to stay too long on long contracts with high wages. Even though there where FFP amortisation reasons for this and he has brought wages down and Sheik and Arabs royals in general like to reward loyalty and success thus this partly explains the contract increases for Kolarove etc
The suggestion seems to be that we should sell players closer to there peak in the hope we get a few million more spend even more at a time when FFP was an issue. I am sure if we had an offer for players like Kolarov we would have sold them. Would they move ?
He keeps bringing the signing in and looks like doing even more.
Does he even get involved in contracts its not in the job description posted by the main critic this perhaps means he cannot get the blame for the situation at least not on his own but perhaps also not get the praise for the lower wage higher bonuses though it looks like his idea from Barcelona
He has got us the best manager around
He helps sort the academy out right and bring in the best youth players ?
Why believe the press ?
As of yet we have not lost the kids in question
Its possible that we could be surprised at who could come in for Bony Kolarove Denayer say given the lack of strikers and CB the amount of money and people pick up injuries perhaps clubs are waiting to get players or holding of so as to pay lower wages.
Perhaps we need another footballing director is his job not to help both city and all the other clubs in CFG yet the other clubs have there own man also ?
I bet no other club has a thread like this. They argue about the manager or the CEO/ Owner for signings budget but Do any complain about their DoF Yet we have perhaps the most respected and do relatively well Why ? Do we like a moan ? Does it make us look bad as fans ?
CAN SOME ANSWER MY QUESTIONS PLEASE
Centurions
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I wasn't calling you for it bud, I actually missed the 'last Summer' bit.Fair enough, I meant left on loan.
Doesn't in the slightest detract from my point though.
You miss my point which was that this is what football fans talk about, not the general direction the club is heading in.
This is the problem on a forum. When things are typed or in black and white context is often ignored.
I can see you're offering 'Navas is shit' as a hypothetical. Something a fan might say and not your actual opinion.
Reading the last few pages it seems many are for some reason patting themselves on the back as some kind of super fan.
There are posts after posts saying those who hate or think Txiki is shit are clueless and don't know what they're talking about.
The odd thing is, I've gone back pages and pages and not one poster has said anything of the sort.
In the last 30 odd pages there literally isn't one post saying Txiki is shit or anything like. Yet 100's of posts saying anyone saying Txiki is shit is a clueless idiot.
Fans will read what they want to read, take what want to take from what you write. Your post and the response is a perfect example of this.
You can say Txiki is doing some fantastic work, be delighted with his signings, impressed with his commitment to the CFA but you're concerned with...
All fans will see is the last little bit. They will think you think he's doing a shit job and react as such. Even though you never actually said that.
Following this, other posters who've not even read your post will read a post by someone who's totally misrepresented your post and then offer their opinion.
It then snowballs.
You will be now known as the guy who thinks Navas and Bony are shit even though you didn't actually say it.
I'm known as the guy who thinks Txiki's shit, 100's will aim posts at me despite me saying countless times that he's largely doing a fantastic job.
It's a wonderful world.