UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

HelloCity said:
If that were the case NASA wouldn’t be expanding its research and appointing a brand new UAP director to oversee the phenomenon going forward.
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They need somebody to investigate any report...that's obvious. Doesn't mean they consider it to be anything alien. The news reports are just humouring you, mate. They're trying not to upset UFO enthusiasts.
 
Marklr said:
They need somebody to investigate any report...that's obvious. Doesn't mean they consider it to be anything alien. The news reports are just humouring you, mate. They're trying not to upset UFO enthusiasts.
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Of course. I guess you’re right…

Let’s face it, a species from one planet would never try to visit or make plans to visit another planet - either in person or via a probe.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
My mind is open a civilisation millions of years in advance of us could be traversing the galaxy while we have only started to explore our own solar system.
Obviously they would need new laws of Physics to do it as the distances involved are huge but a million years from now maybe we will follow their scientific development
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Don't know how we'd make new laws of physics, we'd have to find technology to get around the ones we already know about which limit the speed of travel. I find that very unlikely.

Also, given human beings have been on this planet around 500k years tops and nearly went extinct a number of times, I doubt we'll be around millions of years from now.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Which scientific limits bring you to the conclusion that extra-terrestrial life is not, never has been and never will be here, just out of interest?
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General physics.

The distance between even the closest star is immense and even getting to lightspeed would create problems that would render interstellar travel as close to impossible as can be.
 
HelloCity said:
If that were the case NASA wouldn’t be expanding its research and appointing a brand new UAP director to oversee the phenomenon going forward.
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FFS!
Of course they would, in case it’s advanced Soviet or Chinese tech.
Let’s face it Russia led the space race up to the Apollo missions and the US had no idea of the existence of the eraknoplan until their satellites saw 550 ton warship versions operating on the Caspian Sea in the 60s.
 
HelloCity said:
Of course. I guess you’re right…

Let’s face it, a species from one planet would never try to visit or make plans to visit another planet - either in person or via a probe.
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It's probably not possible. The distance and time. I personally sway towards the belief that civilizations can never meet...too great a distance and time. Civilizations burn themselves out before they can even get away..
Is it the Fermi Paradox or something like that?
 
denislawsbackheel said:
FFS!
Of course they would, in case it’s advanced Soviet or Chinese tech.
Let’s face it Russia led the space race up to the Apollo missions and the US had no idea of the existence of the eraknoplan until their satellites saw 550 ton warship versions operating on the Caspian Sea in the 60s.
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I wouldn't have thought NASA would be keeping an eye out for enemy satellites, would that not much more likely be the CIA or military?
 
Blue warrior said:
From your comments it’s clear you don’t believe there is any other life out there, what are your thoughts on that tic tac object from 2004 caught on F18 pilots video and the ships radar taking off at incredible speeds up to 80k feet?
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Most of the reports, sightings of UFO's that cause so much speculation, tend to be new military aircraft.

Imagine people/other military/commercial pilots etc in the 50's -70's spotting the Valkarye, the Blackbird, the Nighthawk, the Stealth Bomber. These planes were faster and less conventional than other aircraft.

That's before the introduction of drones, some of which don't have wings but are v-shaped but look disc shaped at certain angles. They also don't need to worry about the affects on pilots of extreme manoevers.

So I imagine this was a military aircraft too.
 
feelymcfeel said:
I wouldn't have thought NASA would be keeping an eye out for enemy satellites, would that not much more likely be the CIA or military?
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I did not mention satellites.
NASA have said they are recording and investigating UAPs.
Quote from NASA themselves.

“To be consistent with the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), NASA will be calling UAP “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena” instead of “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena”. NASA’s UAP independent study will be largely focused on aerial phenomena.”

The Russians and Chinese could well be ahead in some aspects of aircraft technology. After all the Russians have deployed and used hypersonic missiles in Ukraine whilst the US are still at the experimental stage.
 
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argyle said:
General physics.

The distance between even the closest star is immense and even getting to lightspeed would create problems that would render interstellar travel as close to impossible as can be.
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General physics as we know it now, yes. I am not so sure as others that we won't discover new scientific fundamentals in the next 1,000 years that turn everything about space travel on its head.

Pretty arrogant to assume we know everything now.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
FFS!
Of course they would, in case it’s advanced Soviet or Chinese tech.
Let’s face it Russia led the space race up to the Apollo missions and the US had no idea of the existence of the eraknoplan until their satellites saw 550 ton warship versions operating on the Caspian Sea in the 60s.
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Russian tech?

You seen their attempts at starting a war against Ukraine?

We’d be battered by now is Russia or China had tech like what has been described. It would be unbeatable.

 
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