UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[nmc]

Its only valid post August 2008 though, there were no transfers ever before that, none.

Perhaps as well we didn’t exist.

 

[mrbelfry]

Its only valid post August 2008 though, there were no transfers ever before that, none.

If only that were true we'd have just missed out on signing Jo

 

[cleavers]

If only that were true we'd have just missed out on signing Jo

...and Vinny.

 

[Marvin]

Guardian club finances survey.https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...guide-2017-18-accounts-manchester-united-city

Nothing new about City (based on last set of a/cs which we already know about but useful to see City compared to other clubs.

Might shock some people to see City's wages way lower than Man Utd, and less than Liverpool. I am not sure the wages are accounted for in quite the same way as I believe City may put bonus payments through the amortised cost when the player is bought and adjust it subsequently but it goes to show that City are not really as profligate as we are made out to be. Match-day revenue still relatively low compared to rival clubs which probably reflects relatively low season ticket prices. For example Chelsea take significantly more match-day income despite having a ground that holds 13,000 less fans

Also look generally at the impact of the TV deal for little clubs like Bournemouth:

£5m matchday income, £119m broadcasting income

 

[blue cigar]

Its only valid post August 2008 though, there were no transfers ever before that, none.

I supported Chelsea's then anyway.

 

[mrbelfry]

...and Vinny.

If getting Vinny meant we had to have Jo then I guess it is a fair trade

 

[cookster]

That's why the timings of the leaks and the charge from UEFA are so suspect. The only purpose they served were to diminish City's reputation and devalue the Treble (Quadruple)!

The timing has more to do with the 5 year period lapsing last week. After 5 years UEFA aren't able to revisit, so it was rushed through.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

UEFA will win rounds 1 and 2 - as they’re in charge of that process. We’ll have our day when a properly independent judicial tribunal in the high court is looking at things. At that point, our lawyers will have UEFA bods on the stand for cross examination. UEFA’s handling of the matter could, allegedly, be considered as maladministration. However, I wouldn’t want to win the case on a technicality. We need to win because we are on the right side of the law !!! We are on the right side of the law!!!!!

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

The timing has more to do with the 5 year period lapsing last week. After 5 years UEFA aren't able to revisit, so it was rushed through.

So are we past it then or they fixed that as well?

 

[HarrytheBlue]

So Javier Tebas wants us banned. The rank hypocrisy of the guy is beyond breathtaking. Real, Atletico and Barca all in colossal debt. How many times have Real been bailed out ? He says we’re inflating transfer costs. Not true Mr Tebas. I think your very own Real are the guilty party here over many decades.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Javier Tebas - Can our lawyers put him on the stand for cross examination when we eventually get our say in court ?

 

[cookster]

So are we past it then or they fixed that as well?

It was last week but they brought new charges just prior to it lapsing.
Somewhat suspicious.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Its the complete opposite, we are great for football, we're actually changing the way its played for the better, and our goals for tally shows exactly that, and where we've led, others will follow.

Why anyone wants to read a bitter dipper fanzine article, I've no idea, it wasn't ever going to be "balanced", we've even helped make their club better, and they can't see it through their tears, f**k them.

We’re supplying the Prem with more young players than any other club. Our investment in players means more money in turnover across the Prem and Europe.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

I would love it if, when we bring the situation to court, it’s televised. I want to see the bigwigs trying to threaten us, being cross examined in court. No doubt our lawyers are keeping a detailed record of all these unfounded comments being made publicly with a view to putting these guys on the stand.

 

[Salford_Blue]

There is a great thread from Twitter, that @Prestwich_Blue and the Bolt From The Blue Team are looking to present very soon (with the author's permission obviously).

It is an outsiders view (a Valencia fan I think) on City's financing about the sheer laziness of others who take the easy option of criticism, rather than trying to emulate.

I suppose it is similar to Pep's/Cruyff's coaching methods. People call it "boring" with all the passing, but it is a tried and trusted methodology. But as we know in life, people much prefer to moan rather than put some graft in to try to be the same or better.

It's gonna be a great read...you will certainly enjoy it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

There is a great thread from Twitter, that @Prestwich_Blue and the Bolt From The Blue Team are looking to present very soon (with the author's permission obviously).

It is an outsiders view (a Valencia fan I think) on City's financing about the sheer laziness of others who take the easy option of criticism, rather than trying to emulate.

I suppose it is similar to Pep's/Cruyff's coaching methods. People call it "boring" with all the passing, but it is a tried and trusted methodology. But as we know in life, people much prefer to moan rather than put some graft in to try to be the same or better.

It's gonna be a great read...you will certainly enjoy it.

That might be the same guy (Cerro something or other, I think) who's tweet was copied here a few pages back (Monday, maybe) - his twitter page says he's a Valencia fan.

Edit: post #10634 of media thread.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/media-coverage-2018-19.337141/page-1064#post-11811079

 

[Ric]

Javier Tebas - Can our lawyers put him on the stand for cross examination when we eventually get our say in court ?

We've already threatened him with legal action once, and not followed through with it, which is presumably why he feels emboldened enough to continue with his verbal attacks.

 

[hello]

Somebody tell him that Liverpool failed FFP in 2013 and were set to fail again in 2015 until UEFA accepted their plea to offset £50m of stadium development costs (the Stanley Park project) which never happened. Which makes Liverpool liars as well as cheats.

He might also be reminded that if he expects City to face stiffer opposition in domestic cups a good first step might be for the coward Klopp not to bin them off, as he has done the past two seasons, because he's incapable of running a campaign on four fronts.

As a comparison of that £50m for the "work on Stanley Park" take a look at the spurs NWHL development phase 1 totalling £15m including some compulsory purchase orders in built up London around grade 2 listed buildings and actually included some construction. At the time the American architects listed all their major projects defined as receiving in excess of $10m which didnt include the liverpool project. However no investigative journalist or uefa asked any questions of such discrepancies and just accepted Liverpool wasted £50m on a model and some artwork.

 

[M18CTID]

There is a great thread from Twitter, that @Prestwich_Blue and the Bolt From The Blue Team are looking to present very soon (with the author's permission obviously).

It is an outsiders view (a Valencia fan I think) on City's financing about the sheer laziness of others who take the easy option of criticism, rather than trying to emulate.

I suppose it is similar to Pep's/Cruyff's coaching methods. People call it "boring" with all the passing, but it is a tried and trusted methodology. But as we know in life, people much prefer to moan rather than put some graft in to try to be the same or better.

It's gonna be a great read...you will certainly enjoy it.

Yeah, it's a cracking read what that Valencia fan put on Twitter.

I've been saying for ages that all these clubs moaning about City's business model would be better off trying to emulate all or part of it instead. I appreciate some clubs don't have the resources to do it but a lot of them actually do. If Spurs can borrow hundreds of millions of pounds to build a new stadium, for example, they could've just as easily borrowed hundreds of millions of pounds to implement some of City's ideas, as could United, Arsenal, et al. I know Spurs probably isn't the best example to use because they do have a good system in place regarding their academy, etc, but it was just to point out that clubs of that size or bigger could get their hands on significant funds to do what City have done, either through their wealthy owners or some other means

 

[Marvin]

As a comparison of that £50m for the "work on Stanley Park" take a look at the spurs NWHL development phase 1 totalling £15m including some compulsory purchase orders in built up London around grade 2 listed buildings and actually included some construction. At the time the American architects listed all their major projects defined as receiving in excess of $10m which didnt include the liverpool project. However no investigative journalist or uefa asked any questions of such discrepancies and just accepted Liverpool wasted £50m on a model and some artwork.

That's around the ball park figure for our UAE "inflated sponsorships".