UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[swinton blue]

The precedent set by the "punishment" of PSG for a similar "offence" will work in our favour in the appeal

PSG offence was kicked out by CAS on a timing technicality even if they were guilty of the offence

 

[Dubai Blue]

Although the emails say ADUG were going to pay the majority of the sponsorship is there any record they actually did, saying one thing and proving it happened are two completely different things.

Agreed. But I don't think the emails even say that. The one I've seen doesn't anyway.

It says that the money due from Abu Dhabi companies must be deposited directly into City's account by each individual company. i.e. It mustn't be paid to ADUG, who then transfer a lump sum over to City along with equity investment.

It sounds like whoever wrote that email had heard that the above was about to happen and he was reminding them that each payment must come direct from each sponsor's account.

How that money actually got into those accounts is none of UEFA's business.

 

[Mr Partridge]

VAR have looked at City's Champion League ban...

It's now 10 years.

 

[Ric]

This is where kloss has to start earning her wage and getting tough, something based on past evidence she has lacked

I think she’s far more pro-active than many people give her credit for. The problem is we’re not holding that many cards. If you think we get a bad press now, it would be a million times worse if we started banning journalists.

 

[Cornish_Blue]

The precedent set by the "punishment" of PSG for a similar "offence" will work in our favour in the appeal

Blind optimism. You do realise we are City not PSG.

 

[Mon Autre]

I cant think of any other walk of life where you can buy a run down company give it a cash injection and than 10 yrs later you have a successful business back in profit. In any other walk of life you would win awards for turning the business around and properly given a knighthood !!!!.

Yet in the bent world of football which is run by a cartel its seen as wrong well fuck them all thats go to the highest court we can and smash the bastards....

I totally agree with you BUT I do kind of think that if we genuinely felt on the right side of the argument we should have contested this in court from the off. Instead we've just done our own thing, broken the rules and hoped we'd get away with it. I don't think we've covered ourselves in glory here and I'm pretty disappointed that an operation as slick as ours hasn't found a smarter way of dealing with this. Really hoping that on appeal this will reduced to one year (which I can deal with given next season will be quite transitional) and also that we go completely mental and tear down every other club we can. Plenty of other clubs are behaving in a very dodgy manner and I hope we make sure they're called out on it.

 

[urban genie]

One thing I am strugling with is the charge.

Etihad have many investors from the UAE and obviously our owner is one, there is nothing fraudulant or corrupt about such investment and cetainly not illegal

If etihad use some of their investments to them to fund our sponsorship, well that's their decission and shouldn't need to be declared in my opinion.

So the only way uefa could know the money may have been partly from investmemts from the shiek could inly be found out through illegal means such as the hacking claims.

So uefa are using illegal means and inuendo to make a case and charge us.

Anyone defending uefa is defending illegal acts and collusion.

 

[Gordyola]

Personally I'm intrigued why many on here are confident CAS will overturn, or if we go via the court route we'll win.

The cartel and UEFA seem to have been one step ahead right throughout the process.

Clearly I hope I'm wrong but after so many "we'll put them in their place, tear down UEFA" false dawns I'm resigned to a lesser punishment on appeal.

If that happens Mansour needs to review who are running the club, after yesterday that's probably happening anyway.

Read the club statement it’s all in there The process has belonged to the corrupt UEFA now it goes to an independent body

 

[give it to gordon]

This could smash football into pieces and can see a breakaway league forming and playing in a world supaleague. Leave the cartel clubs to their Micky mouse champs league , that the dippers and rags play in the premiership and play each other 38 times per season.
That's have a better league , even at international level if they tried to say only players playing in the premiership can play for there country so be it. If it means all the world class players are playing in the breakaway league it will devalue the world cup as well.......

I might be getting ahead of myself lol

 

[toffee balls]

I think she’s far more pro-active than many people give her credit for. The problem is we’re not holding that many cards. If you think we get a bad press now, it would be a million times worse if we started banning journalists.

How could it be worse Ric.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

I think she’s far more pro-active than many people give her credit for. The problem is we’re not holding that many cards. If you think we get a bad press now, it would be a million times worse if we started banning journalists.

Agree we Dont think we need to ban them, but a swift letter from a lawyer about defamation or whatever other term it is regarding calling the club 'grubby' etc would be helpful surely

 

[Ric]

Blind optimism. You do realise we are City not PSG.

PSG got away on a technicality, so it’s a bit different to our case. Sadly not even UEFA will have been stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.

 

[give it to gordon]

I totally agree with you BUT I do kind of think that if we genuinely felt on the right side of the argument we should have contested this in court from the off. Instead we've just done our own thing, broken the rules and hoped we'd get away with it. I don't think we've covered ourselves in glory here and I'm pretty disappointed that an operation as slick as ours hasn't found a smarter way of dealing with this. Really hoping that on appeal this will reduced to one year (which I can deal with given next season will be quite transitional) and also that we go completely mental and tear down every other club we can. Plenty of other clubs are behaving in a very dodgy manner and I hope we make sure they're called out on it.

It's very hard to be smart etc when our opponents keep moving the goal posts !

 

[ballinio]

This is where kloss has to start earning her wage and getting tough, something based on past evidence she has lacked

She’s a waste of time , it’s war now , we need someone stronger . This is designed to destroy us , once the premier league join in we may never recover.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

from the BBC website......

"La Liga President Javier Tebas praised Uefa for "finally taking decisive action".

"Enforcing the rules of financial fair play and punishing financial doping is essential for the future of football," he said.

"For years we have been calling for severe action against Manchester City and Paris Saint-Germain, we finally have a good example of action and hope to see more. Better late than never."

The Beeb straight in there with an anti-City quote - what they fail to mention is that Javier Tebas is a REAL MADRID supporter.

Its a shame the premier league management are so petty and bitter that they can't see what's going on. Those managing the laliga and bundesliga know that English football is on the rise to the top, more attractive games, a huge global support plus the PL could dominate for years! The Spanish and Germans aren't going to have that so they are desperate to throw in all the obstacles that they can, this isn't a City VS the world thing, its a calculated attempt against the premier league but the fools at the top are so obsessed with their old boys union that they can't see through their bias, you either belong to Liverpool or Manchester united or you get no love from us and that would be the downfall of the premier league. These fools would soon realize that the gift the FFP presented to them was nothing more than a trojan horse! the FFP would soon go after Liverpool then Manchester united, and when that happens the tabloids would call for solidarity in English (might even throw in the British card) football but then it would be too late. The treachery and deception from the premier league has gone too far this time, the bitterness has totally blinded them this time, fuck solidarity, time for us to play dirty too, get a cyber army of our own, a media flash mob, statisticians and analysts to question the income and transfers of the so called old boys and then get football blogs and a few independent media allies to put the news out there.

 

[Ric]

How could it be worse Ric.

“Arab owners seek to curtail freedom of speech in Western democracy” etc and so on. The rabid Daily Mail writers like Harris, Herbert and Ladyman would have a field day.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Can we hack into Uefa emails. We have to play a bit dirty here.

Time to consult Liverpool's scouting department? ;-)

 

[PepInYourStep]

Kill 39 Juventus fans = 5 year ban from Europe

Spend £15m over budget = 2 year ban from Europe

 

[cookster]

Read the club statement it’s all in there The process has belonged to the corrupt UEFA now it goes to an independent body

The club have made alot of bold statements on FFP and UEFA and here we are.

 

[give it to gordon]

One thing I am strugling with is the charge.

Etihad have many investors from the UAE and obviously our owner is one, there is nothing fraudulant or corrupt about such investment and cetainly not illegal

If etihad use some of their investments to them to fund our sponsorship, well that's their decission and shouldn't need to be declared in my opinion.

So the only way uefa could know the money may have been partly from investmemts from the shiek could inly be found out through illegal means such as the hacking claims.

So uefa are using illegal means and inuendo to make a case and charge us.

Anyone defending uefa is defending illegal acts and collusion.

It's not against the law for our owner to load/give money to Etihad Airways. He even bailed out was it Lloyd's banks !