UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Coatigan]

I know projectriver guesses we will still don’t know for sure but I think, as Tolmie guesses...City know.

We are only 4 days from us all knowing now including a weekend and CAS will be aware this is one of the biggest cases they have ever had and the more time they can give both parties to prepare the better.

Part of me even thinks the verdict was made known at the time UEFA requested the public verdict be pushed back till Monday.

Also, if City have lost, I don’t think Pep would be talking so much about CL qualification.

So I think we know by now and that we have won.

Agree on all that. There might be an element of confirmation bias there, from both of us.
But there certainly is enough of an overlap of signs to suggest so.

 

[laserblue]

Years ago, after loosing a bet, I had the name of a Welsh Town tattooed on mine

Usk?

 

[laserblue]

Usk?

Beat me to it!

 

[Dextersmate]

I would have to abbreviate that to Lla.

Llanfair Pg. I think.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

My inkling is that the club are not as confident as some of our statements infer , the fact we have done nothing in the transfer market is down to the club not being able to guarantee champs league for players like Koulibaly , it appears we are delaying any commitment on transfers until the appeal decision is confirmed.

Think you will find most clubs have done squat diddly in the transfer market at the moment so I wouldn't read anything into that. Rags can't guarantee CL yet they seem to be making a signing every day

 

[OrigamiNinja]

I know projectriver guesses we still don’t know for sure but I think, as Tolmie guesses...City know.

We are only 4 days from us all knowing now including a weekend and CAS will be aware this is one of the biggest cases they have ever had and the more time they can give both parties to prepare the better.

Part of me even thinks the verdict was made known at the time UEFA requested the public verdict be pushed back till Monday.

Also, if City have lost, I don’t think Pep would be talking so much about CL qualification.

So I think we know by now and that we have won.

Both sides must surely know by now. You can guarantee there will be a statement on the club website within seconds of the announcement from CAS. The club will not find out right at the last minute and have to hurriedly put something together, the same can be said of UEFA.

 

[Keeper!]

My inkling is that the club are not as confident as some of our statements infer , the fact we have done nothing in the transfer market is down to the club not being able to guarantee champs league for players like Koulibaly , it appears we are delaying any commitment on transfers until the appeal decision is confirmed.

The transfer market is completely messed up because of covid and every report I have read says Koulibaly will sign regardless of a UEFA ban.

Yesterday KDB's agent came out and basically laughed at the rumours of his clients exit.

If we win the appeal I do think we will make several major headline signings, but even if we lose we will enter the market but to a realistic level.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I know projectriver guesses we still don’t know for sure but I think, as Tolmie guesses...City know.

We are only 4 days from us all knowing now including a weekend and CAS will be aware this is one of the biggest cases they have ever had and the more time they can give both parties to prepare the better.

Part of me even thinks the verdict was made known at the time UEFA requested the public verdict be pushed back till Monday.

Also, if City have lost, I don’t think Pep would be talking so much about CL qualification.

So I think we know by now and that we have won.

I think that’s a good point about uefa asking for the date to be put back to not overshadow the draw, because they either knew the outcome, or gauged it from how they thought the case went. However unlike Ricky77 I am not basing this on any in depth knowledge of body language

 

[blue oli]

I would have to abbreviate that to Lla.

Dipper

 

[supercity88]

I know projectriver guesses we still don’t know for sure but I think, as Tolmie guesses...City know.

We are only 4 days from us all knowing now including a weekend and CAS will be aware this is one of the biggest cases they have ever had and the more time they can give both parties to prepare the better.

Part of me even thinks the verdict was made known at the time UEFA requested the public verdict be pushed back till Monday.

Also, if City have lost, I don’t think Pep would be talking so much about CL qualification.

So I think we know by now and that we have won.

Hopefully we agreed to delay the decision in exchange for a favourable draw in the CL.

 

[doobyedoobye]

If the club are already aware of the outcome they are doing an incredible job of not letting it slip...

 

[abu13]

I think it is accepted that the club and Uefa will both be informed of the decision before it is announced to the public, given that we should have been finding out tomorrow i suspect it is safe to say we know the outcome now.

For what it's worth i trust the club given there consistent stance that we have done nothing wrong, I am also trusting that CAS are truly independant and as such will find in our favour, so many positive's out there such as the comments from KDB agent yesterday to make me think we have lost.

 

[higgi1p]

The judges may disagree, he takes a view and final decision, that is how it is put. I had the same thought. Think with a majority i doubt there would be an issue.

Unless the judges are in total agreement, he calls the shots!!!!!!!!!! Makes the voting a bit pointless if he can override it because they disagree, can see Gill and his mates tapping him up no end

 

[BolinCell]

Sorry to disappoint you, in civil litigation (which this is), your lawyers do literally receive the judgment a few days before it becomes public and final in Court. So you might receive an embargoed (by threat of contempt) draft of the judgment on the Monday for it to be handed down in Court on the Friday. In other words, yes the parties find out the result before the public.

In this case, I suspect it will be same so both parties can prepare for the press interest and correct any errors in the draft announcement.

On the day City and UEFA receive their copy of the report, BBC, SKY, THE DAILY BUGLE and the natives of the south pacific islands will know the fate of city in MASSIVE BIG HEADLINES. And that's a fact.

 

[HalfwayUpTheKippax]

Unless the judges are in total agreement, he calls the shots!!!!!!!!!! Makes the voting a bit pointless if he can override it because they disagree, can see Gill and his mates tapping him up no end

If the other two disagree then what decision would he be overriding. It would be no different to them each having a casting vote and they go with the majority. Clearly tapping up by DGIAFC would be good grounds for appealing to the Swiss court.

 

[trublue55]

I think it is accepted that the club and Uefa will both be informed of the decision before it is announced to the public, given that we should have been finding out tomorrow i suspect it is safe to say we know the outcome now.

For what it's worth i trust the club given there consistent stance that we have done nothing wrong, I am also trusting that CAS are truly independant and as such will find in our favour, so many positive's out there such as the comments from KDB agent yesterday to make me think we have *** lost.

I hope and assume there is a word missing there........................NOT

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Unless the judges are in total agreement, he calls the shots!!!!!!!!!! Makes the voting a bit pointless if he can override it because they disagree, can see Gill and his mates tapping him up no end

The rules aren't specific for this case - other cases can have multiple different outcomes, and City's rep had a 50% say in choosing the panel president.

I can't see why anyone thinks seriously that there will be undue influence on them.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

If the club are already aware of the outcome they are doing an incredible job of not letting it slip...

Apart from pep smiling in an interview a week ago because he obviously already knew...

 

[Damanino]

Funny that some people say its a positive sign that we agreed to delay the publication from 10th to 13th as it possibly is good for City but at the same time City wont know the outcome before Friday so how we know what we agreed to to be delayed?

One thing is sure on Monday we will know, finally this long shit case is closed, if its a CL ban in any way for City our lawyers have to get to work on Plan B they might be already.

Do we know CAS cases regarding Uefa where a club was not happy with CAS decision and went to different body to get justice and won? We need to prepare maybe for that instead of swallowing 1 or 2 year ban if the outcome is bad.

 

[Centurions]

The rules aren't specific for this case - other cases can have multiple different outcomes, and City's rep had a 50% say in choosing the panel president.

I can't see why anyone thinks seriously that there will be undue influence on them.

I'm pretty sure that CAS choose the president with no input from either side. Agree on their impartiality, that goes without saying (or should do).