UEFA Independent Inquiry

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

You get all these people saying sovereign state this, sovereign state that and then you get some pipsqeak from a scouse website demanding that a large long estsblished sovereign state answers 13 of their questions. Who do they think they are?

Just a like doesn’t do that post justice. Bravo.

 

[give it to gordon]

You get all these people saying sovereign state this, sovereign state that and then you get some pipsqeak from a scouse website demanding that a large long estsblished sovereign state answers 13 of their questions. Who do they think they are?

Be funny as fuck if prince William bought aston villa lol

 

[Blue Mist]

Lots of people preferring to believe a right wing French government and it’s military police force rather than scores of independent journalists and onlookers with video evidence, just because it doesn’t suit your agenda.
The organization of this final was a shambles. It’s the authorities jobs to manage a football crowd properly; including dealing with counterfeit tickets. This doesn’t involve kettling fans who turn up 3 hours prior to kick off and indiscriminately spraying them with pepper spray.
Maybe I’m too old for this rivalry stuff…take the piss out if Liverpool because they lost 2 trophies in a week, not because 8 year old kids got kettled and pepper sprayed. Would the police have behaved any differently if City were there? They’d have employed the same tactics.

Great post except for the fact that it is wrong on just about everything.
This country and also France are 'policed by consent'. Basically if the majority of the public at that immediate time do not agree with something, there is little the police can do.
When 55k turn up at the Etihad the vast majority police themselves by behaving. IF they decided they were not going to behave, it does not matter if a thousand coppers are on duty. Even 20k coppers are going to struggle, how do you arrest them all and where do you keep them. For every person arrested that is a copper removed from the disorder. It works because fans want it to work.
Paris was 100 thousand scousers. OK not all were hell bent on trouble but 19k had genuine tickets, if only 10k had fake tickets and 10k wanted to jib in, that is 20k fans who have to be separated from decent ones.
When you are looking at doubling your capacity, from 19k to to 40k a disaster is likely to happen.
When disorder breaks out the innocent always get hurt.
For all the rights and wrongs of Hillsborough a senior cop decided to open a gate and 97 innocent people died.
Kettling may be wrong, pepper spray may be wrong but sometimes it could be the fact that the dippers have a large majority of fans who do not play to anyone's rules but there own.

 

[crazyg]

I was teargassed by the crs many moons ago. They do not fuck about.

You shouldn't fuck about in a Co-op.

 

[roypaulknewmyfather]

The French Police dole out similar tactics of tear gas and pepper spray on almost a weekly basis but it's mostly aimed at those of either North African or Senegalese origin, so it's not worth a light for our institutionally racist media to mention. When it happens to people from our country, it's an outrage. The same police were at the other end of the stadium where Madrid fans peacefully went about getting into their seats, no gas or spray anywhere, why? In the south of France, on the same day, another European Champions Cup match took place. The Rugby Union equivalent, fans flew in from Eire and travelled from west France, no gas or spray needed. Begs the question why was it necessary at one end of the stadium in Paris? There's been enough comment on the answer, just certain people refuse to accept the reason.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

Be funny as fuck if prince William bought aston villa lol

He's not American. Should be fine

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Tummy tickle time....

‘Throwing enough mud at the wall and seeing what sticks’...sounds familiar.
Lots of seemingly irrelevant points being peddled out left right and centre to apparently ‘prove’ something else over the last few days.

If you’re interested in the truth, let an unemotional, independent investigation take an objective look...

What? You think UEFA can’t be trusted?
Well there is a further course of action if you truly believe you are completely in the right, and think everyone can swallow yet another gut-busting slice of hypocrisy.

 

[stonerblue]

You shouldn't fuck about in a Co-op.

It was a Monsieur Moubles...

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

‘Throwing enough mud at the wall and seeing what sticks’...sounds familiar.
Lots of seemingly irrelevant points being peddled out left right and centre to apparently ‘prove’ something else over the last few days.

If you’re interested in the truth, let an unemotional, independent investigation take an objective look...

What? You think UEFA can’t be trusted?
Well there is a further course of action, if you truly believe you are completely in the right, and think everyone can swallow yet another gut-busting slice of hypocrisy.

Their fans, their media enablers cannot call Uefa a corrupt organisation and then call us cheats in the same breath. It’s either one or the other, what a fantastic end to the season, and Pep’s comment about everyone supporting Liverpool is well and truly vindicated.

 

[give it to gordon]

He's not American. Should be fine

Arrr but villa would be state owned according to the press/media ;)