lloydie said:Damn you pesky kids :)
On a more terrestrial level, buzzer mate, did you see this thread I posted, think it might interest you..
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buzzer1 said:lloydie said:Damn you pesky kids :)
On a more terrestrial level, buzzer mate, did you see this thread I posted, think it might interest you..
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Yes mate, was aware something was afoot with this smiling bastrd, i hope to god that the people stand up and fight the bastrds art every level, right from the slimy bastards in the Scottish Assembly that would sell their own mams for a bit of greasy arsed grovelling brownie points, down to the soulless councilors and the fat smiling bastrd yanks. Fore my arse.
lloydie said:buzzer1 said:Yes mate, was aware something was afoot with this smiling bastrd, i hope to god that the people continue to stand up and fight the bastrds at every level, right from the slimy bastards in the Scottish Assembly that would sell their own mams for a bit of greasy arsed grovelling brownie points, down to the soulless councilors and the fat smiling bastrd yanks. Fore my arse.
Good man :)
20sbc07 said:Was watching a programme on this not too long ago which gave a completely different view of "UFOs".
Their story was that UFOs are not actually from other planets. They are from here on earth... but they are not man made.
They were saying that UFOs have been seen going in and out of the sea almost as much as they have been seen in the sky.
They were talking about a few years back when the australians(i think it was) detected something in the sea, A few navy ships followed it thinking it was a submarine until it went to a deapth that no man made vehicle has been to. They then saw it move up to a speed faster than anything on earth. They followed it until it stopped and called for more ships.
The crew from 3 naval ships saw some sort of long cigar shaped craft surface and 3 things which looked like UFOs came out of it and up into the sky. The ships started shooting at this cigar shaped thing but had no effect on it, It went back down into the sea and they lost it.
This programme was claiming that UFOs are from a civilisation under the sea which most likely settled there from another planet.
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It was also talking about how they are 99% sure there is life on saturn. It has sun light, land, water and heat. Anywhere on earth which has these elements also has some sort of life. They said its most probably fish life.
Not sure about it all, they had quite a few "experts" commenting on both.
denislawsbackheel said:20sbc07 said:Was watching a programme on this not too long ago which gave a completely different view of "UFOs".
Their story was that UFOs are not actually from other planets. They are from here on earth... but they are not man made.
They were saying that UFOs have been seen going in and out of the sea almost as much as they have been seen in the sky.
They were talking about a few years back when the australians(i think it was) detected something in the sea, A few navy ships followed it thinking it was a submarine until it went to a deapth that no man made vehicle has been to. They then saw it move up to a speed faster than anything on earth. They followed it until it stopped and called for more ships.
The crew from 3 naval ships saw some sort of long cigar shaped craft surface and 3 things which looked like UFOs came out of it and up into the sky. The ships started shooting at this cigar shaped thing but had no effect on it, It went back down into the sea and they lost it.
This programme was claiming that UFOs are from a civilisation under the sea which most likely settled there from another planet.
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It was also talking about how they are 99% sure there is life on saturn. It has sun light, land, water and heat. Anywhere on earth which has these elements also has some sort of life. They said its most probably fish life.
Not sure about it all, they had quite a few "experts" commenting on both.
STINGRAY!
" anything can happen in the next half hour"
1.618034 said:Rome and China absolutely did know about each other. And all the other less well know empires in between. It's just that the great distances meant they were effectively talked about in legendary/mythical terms There is also evidence that there was communication between Egypt and South America.
Plus none of these civilisations would've (to the best of our knowledge) been sending EM waves into space, so anyone looking towards the Earth wouldn't have found anything beyond the normal sound of a rocky planet with an iron core that's covered in water... So in turn we're only looking for or rather are going to hear life capable of generating the energy required to produce EM noise. I would've thought that the generating/storage/transmission sources are those that will be stronger, steadier signals that have a chance of being heard above the noise of say, the latest episode of Corrie. I don't know but I'd guess we're just looking for the faintest pattern rather than any actual communication signal.
But that's where the clever bit is... In the deciphering. I don't think we're suddenly going to hear a Star Trek style message from the Clingons. Rather we'll suddenly interpret existing data differently using new techniques/mathematics.
All the above is just my opinion/view... based on moderate knowledge and research.
;-)
BulgarianPride said:1.618034 said:Rome and China absolutely did know about each other. And all the other less well know empires in between. It's just that the great distances meant they were effectively talked about in legendary/mythical terms There is also evidence that there was communication between Egypt and South America.
Plus none of these civilisations would've (to the best of our knowledge) been sending EM waves into space, so anyone looking towards the Earth wouldn't have found anything beyond the normal sound of a rocky planet with an iron core that's covered in water... So in turn we're only looking for or rather are going to hear life capable of generating the energy required to produce EM noise. I would've thought that the generating/storage/transmission sources are those that will be stronger, steadier signals that have a chance of being heard above the noise of say, the latest episode of Corrie. I don't know but I'd guess we're just looking for the faintest pattern rather than any actual communication signal.
But that's where the clever bit is... In the deciphering. I don't think we're suddenly going to hear a Star Trek style message from the Clingons. Rather we'll suddenly interpret existing data differently using new techniques/mathematics.
All the above is just my opinion/view... based on moderate knowledge and research.
;-)
Ah, my history is not very good. But i wasn't suggesting that early civilizations where using EM waves as a mean to communicate with each other.
But i agree, we won't be hearing a Star Trek message, but the data we see, has to have an intelligent pattern. The thing is, their encoding methods to encode the massages might be way to complex for our understanding as of now. And in order for us to see any message they need to have been broadcasting for a long time. The lack of ET signals does not mean there are no other civilization out there. You are a maths man, and you know it's impossible for us to be alone. I am simply saying that Fermi Paradox is kind of wrong.
1.618034 said:BulgarianPride said:Ah, my history is not very good. But i wasn't suggesting that early civilizations where using EM waves as a mean to communicate with each other.
But i agree, we won't be hearing a Star Trek message, but the data we see, has to have an intelligent pattern. The thing is, their encoding methods to encode the massages might be way to complex for our understanding as of now. And in order for us to see any message they need to have been broadcasting for a long time. The lack of ET signals does not mean there are no other civilization out there. You are a maths man, and you know it's impossible for us to be alone. I am simply saying that Fermi Paradox is kind of wrong.
Absolutely mate.
I'm "certain" that there's life beyond our planet but I also think the chances of us communicating are remote, for the reasons you state...
Anyway, on the "UFO" theme, I've just been sent this...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bptMpkkjc[/youtube]
I've got my own theories but none of them involve "Aliens".
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