UFO's real or not?

[BulgarianPride]

If I might interject. I can understand what you're both trying to say, but I have to say I think BP is right.

You can't assume we share common universal properties with other life forms when we have such a small sample size to elect from (one Earth). The argument that all beings on Earth share a penchant for war doesn't allow you to make an assumption that all beings in our Universe do so.

In fact there are very few things you can assume on a 'Universal level'. It's not even true that other intelligent life have to follow our laws of physics. They may have become adapted to such a highly intelligent degree that they know of laws that defy what we know to be physical truth. They could pop in and out of other Universes where our laws of entropy don't apply.

We simply don't know enough. We can make some assumptions of what we deem to be 'statistically likely' but we could never for certain state a single property we'd share with beings from elsewhere in the Universe. It's just not possible.

Sometimes the answer is that you don't know everything. Sometimes the answer is that you don't know anything.

That, my friend, is a perfectly valid argument. Mine was as well. However, BP's logical deductions are fallacious. His evidence supporting his claims are false. The aspects of BP's argument that I claimed were unequivocally false was not his hypothesis but his logic. It was absolute nonsense and I honestly could've deduced better at 13 years.

What part of my logic was false? Please use your vastly superior analytical skills and show and correct my false logic.

 

[zangatangring]

If I might interject. I can understand what you're both trying to say, but I have to say I think BP is right.

You can't assume we share common universal properties with other life forms when we have such a small sample size to elect from (one Earth). The argument that all beings on Earth share a penchant for war doesn't allow you to make an assumption that all beings in our Universe do so.

In fact there are very few things you can assume on a 'Universal level'. It's not even true that other intelligent life have to follow our laws of physics. They may have become adapted to such a highly intelligent degree that they know of laws that defy what we know to be physical truth. They could pop in and out of other Universes where our laws of entropy don't apply.

We simply don't know enough. We can make some assumptions of what we deem to be 'statistically likely' but we could never for certain state a single property we'd share with beings from elsewhere in the Universe. It's just not possible.

Sometimes the answer is that you don't know everything. Sometimes the answer is that you don't know anything.

That, my friend, is a perfectly valid argument. Mine was as well. However, BP's logical deductions are fallacious. His evidence supporting his claims are false. The aspects of BP's argument that I claimed were unequivocally false was not his hypothesis but his logic. It was absolute nonsense and I honestly could've deduced better at 13 years.

What part of my logic was false? Please use your vastly superior analytical skills and show and correct my false logic.

Sorry, I'm busy. I can't attend this forum incessantly. If you so wish, I can compile a compendium of your logical faults in due time.

There's no need to malicious satire. Honestly, just grow up.

 

[Skip Donoghue]

That, my friend, is a perfectly valid argument. Mine was as well. However, BP's logical deductions are fallacious. His evidence supporting his claims are false. The aspects of BP's argument that I claimed were unequivocally false was not his hypothesis but his logic. It was absolute nonsense and I honestly could've deduced better at 13 years.

What part of my logic was false? Please use your vastly superior analytical skills and show and correct my false logic.[/quote]

Lol Your both as bad as one another, niether can prove or disprove the others theories, you sometimes have to accept that

Sorry if misquoted either of you using phone doesn't work sometimes

 

[HelloCity]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFsSKCax2CY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KtsZ5rIjo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk[/youtube]

 

[zangatangring]

That, my friend, is a perfectly valid argument. Mine was as well. However, BP's logical deductions are fallacious. His evidence supporting his claims are false. The aspects of BP's argument that I claimed were unequivocally false was not his hypothesis but his logic. It was absolute nonsense and I honestly could've deduced better at 13 years.

What part of my logic was false? Please use your vastly superior analytical skills and show and correct my false logic.

Lol Your both as bad as one another, niether can prove or disprove the others theories, you sometimes have to accept that

Sorry if misquoted either of you using phone doesn't work sometimes

Like I said, I'm not trying to criticizing his theory. It's his logical proof that I found shocking. Thanks for the comments :). that leaves one bad guy by process of elimination.

 

[BulgarianPride]

What part of my logic was false? Please use your vastly superior analytical skills and show and correct my false logic.

Lol Your both as bad as one another, niether can prove or disprove the others theories, you sometimes have to accept that

Sorry if misquoted either of you using phone doesn't work sometimes

Like I said, I'm not trying to criticizing his theory. It's his logical proof that I found shocking. Thanks for the comments :). that leaves one bad guy by process of elimination.

Come on now, show me the faulty logic.

 

[20sbc07]

I think there's something out there, wheather they're man made or from somewhere else I don't know.


I found these video's very interesting:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbhLad96JwA[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZ2xve0zzI[/youtube]

 

[Maintainin]

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[ElanJo]

All life in the universe would have to adhere to the laws of the universe but that doesn't mean that all life in the universe would necessarily behave as life does on this planet.
Hell, different species behave differently from each other on this planet. We have very aggressive meat eaters (both social and lone predators) and we have peaceful vegetarians (mostly social) etc. Look at Chimps and Bonobos. Chimps are quite aggressive whereas Bonobos are much more peaceful. It's not difficult to imagine these environmental factors and/or random mutations, those which led the Bonobo to be less aggressive than the Chimp, could occur elsewhere and to an even more extreme extent.

Would it possible for a mammal-like creature to evolve via photosynthesis? What about silicon based life? Can intelligence evolve in a non-social species?
The questions go on and on but we only have 1 main sample - Earth - and so, atm, we can only speculate.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Is there intelligent life out there? Almost certainly.


Have they visited Earth? Almost certainly not.

They certainly don't visit Off Topic very often mate.