UK far right trouble

[inbetween]

So the grounds on which you want people sent to prison is because they've theorised that the killer is a Muslim and claimed most terror attacks are carried out by Muslims? Wow...chilling! What if both of those things are true? Scary, scary times.

But that isn't what happened. Nobody has been arrested and put in prison for such claims. All of the people sentenced were sentenced because they were rioting or they were calling for violence which came as a result of the theories.

The moral of the story is you can say whatever you want but there are boundaries. You're not going to get done for repeating tittle tattle that goes around the pub but you will get done if you shout it on a megaphone outside of the court where the guy you're shouting about is on trial... This is what Tommy Robinson is now in prison for.

You're also likely to get done if you don't like migrants and so readily believe misinformation that a murder was done by a migrant and so proceed to call for riots or go and smash up the streets in the name of it.

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

anyone?

 

[KDB Fan]

But that isn't what happened. Nobody has been arrested and put in prison for such claims. All of the people sentenced were sentenced because they were rioting or they were calling for violence which came as a result of the theories.

The moral of the story is you can say whatever you want but there are boundaries. You're not going to get done for repeating tittle tattle that goes around the pub but you will get done if you shout it on a megaphone outside of the court where the guy you're shouting about is on trial... This is what Tommy Robinson is now in prison for.

You're also likely to get done if you don't like migrants and so readily believe misinformation that a murder was done by a migrant and so proceed to call for riots or go and smash up the streets in the name of it.

People were being arrested up and down the country for saying the attacker was Ali Al Shakati and many were being prosecuted. This is from yesterday.

Verdict announced for man accused of stirring racial hatred

The former prison officer has been on trial in Loughborough

www.leicestermercury.co.uk

Someone was even arrested in Pakistan for it although in a sign of how low our country has stooped, they didn't even bother prosecuting him there. One of the worst countries in the world for freedom of expression had more sense than the UK to politically persecute someone for sharing the wrong name.

Add to that the number of people being prosecuted and convicted for sharing general anti-immigration, anti-police stuff and the result is a lot of people in prison for speech crimes.

Going back to what you said in your previous post though, do you really want people sent to prison because they've theorised that the killer is a Muslim and claimed most terror attacks are carried out by Muslims? Even if that could be true? That seems to be what you're saying but please clarify if I'm wrong.

 

[stonerblue]

It’s been reported in several news outlets.

'fake news mate'

 

[stonerblue]

So which ex fruit loop whos returned under a new username is @KDB Fan ?

hahahahaa been wondering that meself. She's a tryer though so maybe chippy

 

[stonerblue]

anyone?

Joint smoked. Coat on...

 

[west didsblue]

'fake news mate'

If it’s not on Facebook it hasn’t happened.

 

[inbetween]

People were being arrested up and down the country for saying the attacker was Ali Al Shakati and many were being prosecuted. This is from yesterday.

Verdict announced for man accused of stirring racial hatred

The former prison officer has been on trial in Loughborough

www.leicestermercury.co.uk

Someone was even arrested in Pakistan for it although in a sign of how low our country has stooped, they didn't even bother prosecuting him there. One of the worst countries in the world for freedom of expression had more sense than the UK to politically persecute someone for sharing the wrong name.

Add to that the number of people being prosecuted and convicted for sharing general anti-immigration, anti-police stuff and the result is a lot of people in prison for speech crimes.

Going back to what you said in your previous post though, do you really want people sent to prison because they've theorised that the killer is a Muslim and claimed most terror attacks are carried out by Muslims? Even if that could be true? That seems to be what you're saying but please clarify if I'm wrong.

Going back to my previous post, I'm not interested in what I prefer or whether people should be sent to prison. Only a tiny minority ever get sent to prison for these sort of offences so it doesn't worry me in the slightest. There are only more people going to prison for it because there are more people saying things that cross the line.

The difference between who ends up in prison and who doesn't even get investigated always comes down to language and intent. Saying a potential terrorist is a Muslim isn't a crime. Surely you aren't stupid though and must know that it never gets expressed in that simple way does it?

Do you really think that simple comment for example is what drove people to get on their feet and go and smash up our towns and cities? Clearly not, much of the messaging was violent or racist and demanded that people rise up, so they did. Those messengers are now facing prison and indeed quite rightly so.

The veterans who fought in WW2 didn't fight for the kind of ideology behind this 'free speech', they fought against it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

all those prominent faeces - sorry faces - on the socials who were apoplectic yesterday about the alleged with holding of evidence have, this afternoon, moved on to the Budget. Looks like they are making farming the new fishing (so thats farming fucked) because what you have to remember above all for them it was about noise and never ever about 3 dead little girls

 

[KDB Fan]

Going back to my previous post, I'm not interested in what I prefer or whether people should be sent to prison. Only a tiny minority ever get sent to prison for these sort of offences so it doesn't worry me in the slightest. There are only more people going to prison for it because there are more people saying things that cross the line.

The difference between who ends up in prison and who doesn't even get investigated always comes down to language and intent. Saying a potential terrorist is a Muslim isn't a crime. Surely you aren't stupid though and must know that it never gets expressed in that simple way does it?

Do you really think that simple comment for example is what drove people to get on their feet and go and smash up our towns and cities? Clearly not, much of the messaging was violent or racist and demanded that people rise up, so they did. Those messengers are now facing prison and indeed quite rightly so.

The veterans who fought in WW2 didn't fight for the kind of ideology behind this 'free speech', they fought against it.

You gave your opinion about an extremely dystopian interpretation of a contempt of court law and I was just challenging it. If you don't want to defend it, I wouldn't blame you because it would criminalise vast swathes of the population including the entire field of criminology! People speculate about the perpetrators of crime, always have done and always will do and as farfetched/uncomfortable as some of the theories can sometimes be, it speaks to a sickness in our country that we've started locking people up for it, even if those theories turn out to be true.

And no, people didn't fight in WW2 for the Allies so they could censor people and lock them up for saying things they don't like. You're thinking of the Nazis.