southamptonblue
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Never been on twitter.....sounds identical to Facebook.
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UK far right trouble
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BTH
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That were sold off cheaply a few years ago. A bit like him!get the Boris water cannons out, and while theyr'e at it jetwash the pavements around piccadilly, the place fuckin stinks
They've never been used on the British mainland AFAIK. Although I did see one used in Charleroi on a mob of locals who decided to ambush a group of City fans before our friendly there a few years ago. And it was devastatingly effective!
That's fundamentally the point, there is no legal route but that doesn't mean there should be. We cannot be the international rescue service for the world because we can't even look after the people who are already here.What are your concerns about illegal immigration? How does it personally affect you!. Can you tell me just one example of legal immigration process and route for somebody from sub-Saharan region or Eritrea or Afganistan, etc. to the UK? And what is 'legal' immigration, does it exist? These subversive cunts as you rightly call them quote and use 'illegal immigration' as their main motive for anger and frustration and resulting hatred and bigotry, so like it or no they share the same concern with you and in a way they speak for you.
Our obligation is to take people when they enter the UK and it just so happens that there's water between us and Europe so entering the UK is difficult. Our policy for this type of migration is no different to any other country so there's very little need to change it.
Safe routes are not safe because often cases will be lodged potentially in France where you're just going to encourage people to make the dangerous trip across Europe to get to France. This may first include a far more dangerous Mediterranean crossing.
The people coming over are doing so at the behest of criminal gangs, IE traffickers. Labour's policy to attempt to disrupt the criminals is perhaps a good start as nothing has been done about it. I'd then process asylum applications as soon as possible so the cost can be reduced and those accepted can be quickly integrated.
The far right aren't interested in the migration itself, they seemingly have a problem with the type of people who are coming and that's what makes them far right. They even call themselves patriots but I dispute that because no patriot hates the people within its own country, they're just racist fascist nationalists.
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staffsblue
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I had the same thing. I was following almost exclusively academics for my job, and yet I still found myself being served up divisive shit about whatever the issue of the day was. Nowadays, I only ever see it when people post links on here, and it's just a cesspit now.
Football threads used to be alright on there. Now it's just a bunch of clueless trolls posting stuff like 'Manchester is Red/Blue' or some variation of 'Messi > Ronaldo' on posts that have nothing to do with them. Just the most banal crap imaginable. The new version of that is '115' on anything related to City, which goes to the top if you've paid for it to. You used to generally find that the top replies had a bit of wit and humour to them.
My view a few years ago about Facebook and Twitter was that Facebook was a place where you learnt to hate people you knew, and Twitter was a place you learnt to love people you didn't know.
Facebook has revealed to me the dodgy views of neighbours and ex colleagues, whereas I'd made new friends on Twitter and ended up going for a pint with a few of them.
However, I ditched Twitter / X a couple of years ago when Musk failed to deal with the divisive posters.
I've remained on Facebook, but only use it as a calendar to keep track of upcoming gigs and other events. I certainly never post my personal opinions on there, and have unfollowed those who previously annoyed me.
I'm With Stupid
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I dunno. For me, Facebook has always been non-political. I think you have to go looking for it. I never comment on stuff like that, so my algorithm is just a load of shite I'm not interested in. Comics and memes with really gentle humour. Maps, lists and tables where they deliberately get something wrong so that everyone will correct them in the comments. Videos of red hot metal balls being put into different liquids (that's a new one). It did a while ago attempt to get me into misogyny, by serving me loads of 'gold digger' content, but that seems to have stopped now. Probably doesn't help that I barely ever go on it.Never been on twitter.....sounds identical to Facebook.
I'm seriously considering deleting it myself, for the first time. I rarely post on there now, and am just getting fed so much toxic stuff on the "For you" tab. If it's not tedious culture war bollocks, then it's videos of people fighting/getting battered, girls advertising their OnlyFans, or ads for cheap shit goods from China. Musk really has destroyed the platform, which was probably his intention when he bought it.I had the same thing. I was following almost exclusively academics for my job, and yet I still found myself being served up divisive shit about whatever the issue of the day was. Nowadays, I only ever see it when people post links on here, and it's just a cesspit now.
Football threads used to be alright on there. Now it's just a bunch of clueless trolls posting stuff like 'Manchester is Red/Blue' or some variation of 'Messi > Ronaldo' on posts that have nothing to do with them. Just the most banal crap imaginable. The new version of that is '115' on anything related to City, which goes to the top if you've paid for it to. You used to generally find that the top replies had a bit of wit and humour to them.
I'm With Stupid
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Aye, I left when he took over. I think I gave him about a month, but it was clear it was going to shit. Not that it wasn't awful before he took it over. Yes, lots of far right shit on there, but also loads of the kind of Spanish inquisitions from the left on there too. One area that was interesting in academic Twitter was the emergence on the left of these super woke academics who were bringing very American, race-based identity politics to linguistics and second language acquisition (my area). I don't know if that more leftist stuff is still on there, because as I say, I quit.Elon sees it as his own reactionary right propaganda machine these days. I'm like you, I used to have it to follow academics and football and now every other post is a far right talking point. It's as clear as day.
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Social media and the 24/7 news cycle has made us able to dehumanise people we see on a screen. Whether it be immigrants or the rioters, these are other human beings with lives, families and worries like us all. The majority of these people you could probably have a chat and a laugh with, a reasoned discussion and maybe learn something from each other. Back in the day we probably would.
The amount of different personalities in the workplace and we still manage to leave at the end of the day without having fought with anybody or called them names, 2 minutes on twitter though and people go mental.
Dehumanise the rioters? They have done that themselves with their behaviour.
I doubt I would want to have a chat & laugh with some **** who attacks people due to their skin tone.
Dehumanise the rioters? They have done that themselves with their behaviour.
I doubt I would want to have a chat & laugh with some **** who attacks people due to their skin tone.
This is the result of people not having reasonable conversations, not the cause. If people could talk more rather than label people and push them into their own little echo chamber groups this wouldnt be happening.
People with genuine and reasonable concerns get immediately written off as racist or far right, they aren't listened to so it pushes them into the hands of people they think are listening, wankers like Farage and Tommy Robinson.
HelloCity
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Social media and the 24/7 news cycle has made us able to dehumanise people we see on a screen. Whether it be immigrants or the rioters, these are other human beings with lives, families and worries like us all. The majority of these people you could probably have a chat and a laugh with, a reasoned discussion and maybe learn something from each other. Back in the day we probably would.
The amount of different personalities in the workplace and we still manage to leave at the end of the day without having fought with anybody or called them names, 2 minutes on twitter though and people go mental.
Hahahahahahah
Genuinely can’t fathom some of the posts on here at times.