Thanks for listing a load of people that were locked up for violent disorder, many of whom pleaded guilty. The fact they were shouting abuse at the time is hardly surprising and not the sole or primary reason they were locked up.An opinion piece that references individual cases.
And the state locking people up and throwing every resource at trying to get someone convicted isn't an example of state crackdown on speech because a jury acquitted the defendant? Okay mate.
Please see the link above too.
Also, some more cases that took me 30 seconds to find all within the space of a week in court:
Self-styled paedophile-hunter, Phillip Hoban, who claims to be partly responsible for putting 440 sex offenders behind bars for his work with Predator Exposure UK, which carries out stings on would-be sex offenders who have sent sickening messages to one of their "decoy" profiles pretending to be children, run by themselves or colleagues. But for Hoban, thanks to the social media he has carefully nurtured to catch criminals, he is now the one behind bars. Despite claiming to police that he was not shouting: "Who the f*** is Allah?" And was actually shouting: "Who the f*** is Alan?" Hoban eventually admitted racially aggravated intentional harassment/alarm/distress by using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour. He was jailed for eight months on Thursday, August 15. Unable to afford a barrister, Hoban represented himself and told Recorder of Leeds Judge Guy Kearl KC that he is "not racist" and it "kills him inside" for people to think that. He said he is mixed race and had made a public apology on his TikTok account.
Mark Bowen, 40, of no fixed address, was heard shouting at police: “Shame on you, you horrible c****, I hope it’s your f****** kids next mate”. Judge Moira Macmillan, referring to the comments Bowen made to officers, told him: “It was a despicable thing for you to say. He was jailed for over 2 years at Bristol Crown Court.
Kevin Searle, a father-of-one who poured a can of cider over a police officer during a protest in Weymouth has been jailed for 21 months. Kevin Searle, of Weymouth, Dorset, pleaded guilty to violent disorder and assault by beating of an emergency worker during the demonstration on August 4.
A house husband was locked up for 18 months for violent disorder for taking part in a “far-right” protest in Weymouth despite the efforts of his wife to coax him away. Father-of-three Ian Vetier, of Weymouth, pleaded guilty to the offence at Bournemouth Crown Court in relation to the demonstration on August 4. He added: "One of those males was identified as Ian Vetier and he is noticeable as he is one of a few males who was shirtless and was holding a Union Jack flag in his right hand.” He added: “Mr Vetier can be seen and heard shouting ‘It’s a free country mate’, and a little later he was saying words to this effect: ‘You f****** wrong ‘un, back them f****** ragheads, c**** mate, the lot of them." The protest group then started chanting collectively ‘Who the f*** is Allah?’
Michael Whitehead, 27, admitted violent disorder and was sentenced to two years and eight months, after shouting “you’re not fit to wear the badge” at police officers guarding a hotel housing asylum seekers which was being attacked in Rotherham at Sheffield Crown Court, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has confirmed.
There's probably examples of above that involve more than just speech crimes but the bottom line is, you'd have to have your head pretty far down in the sand to pretend there's not been a huge offensive by the state to convict people for speech crimes after the Southport unrest for political purposes.
Thanks for admitting that.Can't help you mate if you refuse to read the many examples I've given.
Thanks for listing a load of people that were locked up for violent disorder, many of whom pleaded guilty. The fact they were shouting abuse at the time is hardly surprising and not the sole or primary reason they were locked up.
No, you’ve given me about 20 people locked up for violent disorder.You asked for "just one" example of someone locked up for chanting, I've given you about 20. From across multiple links including the CPS's own website where they explicitly say someone got locked up for chanting.
I think you're being deliberately slow of understanding so I'm afraid you're another one I can't help.
The broader point though is lots of people are getting locked up for chanting, speech crimes and (as you denied) chanting 'who the fuck is allah?'.
Racially or religiously aggravated section 5 is a summary only, non-imprisonable offence and the maximum penalty is a level 4 fine.
Under current law, you can't be imprisoned for chanting. Anyone who has been imprisoned has been convicted of at least one other imprisonable offence.
That's the bottom line though. It is an offence to chant 'who the fuck is Allah?' whether that's indictable, a summary offence or a death penalty offence. It's a form of blasphemy and it's a shame our generation have embraced blasphemy as a crime after the liberalism of previous generations rejected it.
You can also be imprisoned for chanting under the crime of violent disorder. You don't have to be violent in order to be convicted for violent disorder...@westdidsblue take note. There are also a myriad of other offences that you can commit for chanting but violent disorder is the one that the CPS seem to have used most often in relation to the protesting and rioting.
The only point I am trying to make, which backs up other posters, is that you can't be imprisoned for chanting.
I repeat, "Racially or religiously aggravated section 5 is a summary only, non-imprisonable offence and the maximum penalty is a level 4 fine.'
Taken from here: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#:~:text=Racially/Religiously Aggravated Offences,-Where an offence&text=The maximum penalty on summary,is a level 4 fine.
This isn't open to opinion, it is a FACT determined by the law of the land. And on this basis, nobody, not one single person, has been imprisoned recently solely because they chanted something offensive.
Your problem in trying to convince people of your position is that people can read, and so far nothing you have linked or posted suggests that people have been imprisoned for chanting. And that’s because, on its own, it’s not an offence that is punished by imprisonment.That's the bottom line though. It is an offence to chant 'who the fuck is Allah?' whether that's indictable, a summary offence or a death penalty offence. It's a form of blasphemy and it's a shame our generation have embraced blasphemy as a crime after the liberalism of previous generations rejected it.
You can also be imprisoned for chanting under the crime of violent disorder. You don't have to be violent in order to be convicted for violent disorder...@westdidsblue take note. There are also a myriad of other offences that you can commit for chanting but violent disorder is the one that the CPS seem to have used most often in relation to the protesting and rioting.