UKIP

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

True, but he has got a vested interest in rubbishing them...

No shit Sherlock ;). I find these accusations of racism a little bit lazy, and a little bit too convenient, when you bear in mind that the country is largely Euro-sceptic, so accusing a party of being racist is much easier than debating the issue.

it seems that some people can only compute left versus right, tory versus labour; as if that tired old minority interest two party politics is still somehow relevant in the modern world

Maybe it shouldn't be relevant,but given that we have had nothing else but a two horse race since the last Liberal administration under Lloyd George over 100 years ago,(other than wartime and the current coalitions),the two party hegemony is still very much alive and kicking,and will return our governments for the foreseeable future.

 

[Rascal]

No shit Sherlock ;). I find these accusations of racism a little bit lazy, and a little bit too convenient, when you bear in mind that the country is largely Euro-sceptic, so accusing a party of being racist is much easier than debating the issue.

I dont think the country is largely Euro-sceptic at all. The last poll figure was 54% in favour of withdrawl. When you consider the press is mainly Eurosceptic and there is no avowed pro-Europe movement then i think that 54% figure could soon evaporate when the Pro-Europe arguments are given eual weight in the case of a referendum. I think rather than as you say the country is largely Euro-sceptic i believe its largely Euro-ignorant.

I have asked this question before and not recieved a reply so will ask again. How does Brussels directly affect your daily lives?

 

[hgblue]

No shit Sherlock ;). I find these accusations of racism a little bit lazy, and a little bit too convenient, when you bear in mind that the country is largely Euro-sceptic, so accusing a party of being racist is much easier than debating the issue.

I dont think the country is largely Euro-sceptic at all. The last poll figure was 54% in favour of withdrawl. When you consider the press is mainly Eurosceptic and there is no avowed pro-Europe movement then i think that 54% figure could soon evaporate when the Pro-Europe arguments are given eual weight in the case of a referendum. I think rather than as you say the country is largely Euro-sceptic i believe its largely Euro-ignorant.

I have asked this question before and not recieved a reply so will ask again. How does Brussels directly affect your daily lives?

You understand that for most people this is a matter of principle and democracy don't you? The direction of travel of the EU is towards a monetary and political union, and many people are opposed to this on principle. The potential for this to affect our daily lives is enormous, just ask the Greeks, the Spanish, the Irish.

 

[2sheikhs]

No shit Sherlock ;). I find these accusations of racism a little bit lazy, and a little bit too convenient, when you bear in mind that the country is largely Euro-sceptic, so accusing a party of being racist is much easier than debating the issue.

I dont think the country is largely Euro-sceptic at all. The last poll figure was 54% in favour of withdrawl. When you consider the press is mainly Eurosceptic and there is no avowed pro-Europe movement then i think that 54% figure could soon evaporate when the Pro-Europe arguments are given eual weight in the case of a referendum. I think rather than as you say the country is largely Euro-sceptic i believe its largely Euro-ignorant.

I have asked this question before and not recieved a reply so will ask again. How does Brussels directly affect your daily lives?

Straight bananas.


Bananas.

 

[hgblue]

No shit Sherlock ;). I find these accusations of racism a little bit lazy, and a little bit too convenient, when you bear in mind that the country is largely Euro-sceptic, so accusing a party of being racist is much easier than debating the issue.

I dont think the country is largely Euro-sceptic at all. The last poll figure was 54% in favour of withdrawl. When you consider the press is mainly Eurosceptic and there is no avowed pro-Europe movement then i think that 54% figure could soon evaporate when the Pro-Europe arguments are given eual weight in the case of a referendum. I think rather than as you say the country is largely Euro-sceptic i believe its largely Euro-ignorant.

I have asked this question before and not recieved a reply so will ask again. How does Brussels directly affect your daily lives?

Straight bananas.


Bananas.

The straight banana is a phallicy.

 

[Rascal]

You understand that for most people this is a matter of principle and democracy don't you? The direction of travel of the EU is towards a monetary and political union, and many people are opposed to this on principle. The potential for this to affect our daily lives is enormous, just ask the Greeks, the Spanish, the Irish.

You keep saying most, yet figures say 54% thats only just not most and its a one sided argument at the moment. If the pro-Europe side of the debate gets its act together and makes the case for Europe and how it benefits the UK then that gap will close im sure.

I am neither pro or anti Europe, but would like to see it reformed and made more democratic.

Its ironic that a country such as the UK which has had a monetary and political union of its own for hundreds of years has people who disprove of that very same thing with Europe. Its wierd that many Eurosceptics will campaign against Scottish independence.

 

[smudgedj]

You understand that for most people this is a matter of principle and democracy don't you? The direction of travel of the EU is towards a monetary and political union, and many people are opposed to this on principle. The potential for this to affect our daily lives is enormous, just ask the Greeks, the Spanish, the Irish.

You keep saying most, yet figures say 54% thats only just not most and its a one sided argument at the moment. If the pro-Europe side of the debate gets its act together and makes the case for Europe and how it benefits the UK then that gap will close im sure.

I am neither pro or anti Europe, but would like to see it reformed and made more democratic.

Its ironic that a country such as the UK which has had a monetary and political union of its own for hundreds of years has people who disprove of that very same thing with Europe. Its wierd that many Eurosceptics will campaign against Scottish independence.

I think you're wrong about Scottish independence I would love that drain on society to be independent. I can see what will happen; they get independence from England, take the Euro instead of Sterling and 5 years later come begging for a bail out.

Begging

 

[SWP's back]

You understand that for most people this is a matter of principle and democracy don't you? The direction of travel of the EU is towards a monetary and political union, and many people are opposed to this on principle. The potential for this to affect our daily lives is enormous, just ask the Greeks, the Spanish, the Irish.

You keep saying most, yet figures say 54% thats only just not most and its a one sided argument at the moment. If the pro-Europe side of the debate gets its act together and makes the case for Europe and how it benefits the UK then that gap will close im sure.

I am neither pro or anti Europe, but would like to see it reformed and made more democratic.

Its ironic that a country such as the UK which has had a monetary and political union of its own for hundreds of years has people who disprove of that very same thing with Europe. Its wierd that many Eurosceptics will campaign against Scottish independence.

No it's ironic at all and the two and not at all similar in terms of the disparate nature and size of EU member states.

Also I would not only give Scotland independence but rebuild the wall.

 

[hgblue]

You understand that for most people this is a matter of principle and democracy don't you? The direction of travel of the EU is towards a monetary and political union, and many people are opposed to this on principle. The potential for this to affect our daily lives is enormous, just ask the Greeks, the Spanish, the Irish.

You keep saying most, yet figures say 54% thats only just not most and its a one sided argument at the moment. If the pro-Europe side of the debate gets its act together and makes the case for Europe and how it benefits the UK then that gap will close im sure.

I am neither pro or anti Europe, but would like to see it reformed and made more democratic.

Its ironic that a country such as the UK which has had a monetary and political union of its own for hundreds of years has people who disprove of that very same thing with Europe. Its wierd that many Eurosceptics will campaign against Scottish independence.

Just to be clear, I think it's incredible that people believe that countries like Greece, Spain, Ireland, can have the same currency as countries like Germany, France and the UK. Truly bizarre. Already it's leading to mass unemployment and rioting on the streets in protest. However, if the majority of the British people vote for this in a referendum, then I'll think it's a mistake, but I'll have to grin and bear it, and content myself with saying 'I told you so', when it all goes tits up ;). As for Scotland, speaking as a democrat, I think it's great that they're having a referendum to decide on the future direction of their country, and I'll respect the outcome whatever that may be. A union where people can't be allowed to voice their opinion for fear of the possibility that they may say no, isn't much of a union imo.

 

[Skashion]

Scotland won't pull out. I think even with Braveheart on repeat and Banockburn ringing in their ears, most will see sense.