UKIP

[Benarbia_is_god]

They will get four seats at this election. The two they currently occupy, Farage and then they will win a shock seat somewhere. Nowhere near the 10 or more they were expecting last year. However I can honestly see them winning every English marginal by election seat that comes up in the next five years, especially if it is SNP/Labour in government. They will play the English nationalist card and it will reap significant rewards.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

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@Steve

I'm pretty young (23), so maybe I'm a little naive. I just think the dinosaurs are in a minority and certainly in a professional environment. You can laugh at a sexist joke at home but still employ women at work.

You're hardly the future but you and I (I'm 30) have got the gist. Like I said we need a few more years of laws and PC stuff. When the world is conditioned enough to accept we're all human it will be a much better place. We are not there yet by a loooooong stretch.

Regarding the sexist joke at home. There will be a time when the joke is a joke of the joke, if you get my meaning. An irony of times gone by.

 

[laserblue]

On the basis that UKIP's policies are specifically designed to appeal to disaffected right wing Tories and xenophobes I don't understand the reports that apparently significant numbers of traditional Labour voters are prepared to abandon their socialist principles and vote for this shower.

 

[argyle]

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@Damocles

I'd imagine the proportion of women in programming jobs is very similar to the proportion of women that are qualified in programming jobs, which is at it should be. I really don't think it's fair to discriminate against men who've worked hard to get their programming qualification in order to add some more women who haven't to address the balance.

I agree that it's a problem though, so I think alternative solutions should be found. Keeping programming as an example, it should be taught far more in schools. Get girls interested in primary school and they may just keep the subject/hobby up until they're making degree choices.

@Steve

I'm pretty young (23), so maybe I'm a little naive. I just think the dinosaurs are in a minority and certainly in a professional environment. You can laugh at a sexist joke at home but still employ women at work.

@Oscar

Again, I may be being naive. I don't think UKIP's rise is due to tons of racists coming out from behind the curtains - it's because a lot of their policies have a common sense element and because a lot of people don't like being dictated to from unelected leaders in Brussels.

@Rascal

I'd argue that the rise of the internet has done much more for getting rid of inequalities. We now get access to worldwide news instantly, can talk about issues with multiple people all over the world in a conversational manner and there's a lot of people sharing their thoughts on issues that are important to them. That's given people a much broader understanding of different cultures.

There are alot of racists who support UKIP though, all you have to do is go on the UKIP facebook pages or the Daily Mails comments section to see it.

And only 9-12% of British law's have an origin from the E.U.

 

[argyle]

The Equality laws that UKIP want repealing also deal with businesses discriminating against people.

At the moment anyone who has a business cannot refuse a service on the basis or race, gender, sexuality etc.

 

[CityStu]

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@Damocles

I'd imagine the proportion of women in programming jobs is very similar to the proportion of women that are qualified in programming jobs, which is at it should be. I really don't think it's fair to discriminate against men who've worked hard to get their programming qualification in order to add some more women who haven't to address the balance.

I agree that it's a problem though, so I think alternative solutions should be found. Keeping programming as an example, it should be taught far more in schools. Get girls interested in primary school and they may just keep the subject/hobby up until they're making degree choices.

@Steve

I'm pretty young (23), so maybe I'm a little naive. I just think the dinosaurs are in a minority and certainly in a professional environment. You can laugh at a sexist joke at home but still employ women at work.

@Oscar

Again, I may be being naive. I don't think UKIP's rise is due to tons of racists coming out from behind the curtains - it's because a lot of their policies have a common sense element and because a lot of people don't like being dictated to from unelected leaders in Brussels.

@Rascal

I'd argue that the rise of the internet has done much more for getting rid of inequalities. We now get access to worldwide news instantly, can talk about issues with multiple people all over the world in a conversational manner and there's a lot of people sharing their thoughts on issues that are important to them. That's given people a much broader understanding of different cultures.

There are alot of racists who support UKIP though, all you have to do is go on the UKIP facebook pages or the Daily Mails comments section to see it.

And only 9-12% of British law's have an origin from the E.U.

I'd agree that UKIP is the party that most racists would gravitate to. But that is definitely not to say that most UKIP supporters are racists.

Isn't that 9-12% too many? Considering nobody has elected the people making those laws.

 

[CityStu]

The Equality laws that UKIP want repealing also deal with businesses discriminating against people.

At the moment anyone who has a business cannot refuse a service on the basis or race, gender, sexuality etc.

Why would anyone turn away business?

Again, do you really think we live in a nation of neanderthals? No doubt there are a couple, but the vast majority wouldn't discriminate regardless of the equality laws.

 

[argyle]

The Equality laws that UKIP want repealing also deal with businesses discriminating against people.

At the moment anyone who has a business cannot refuse a service on the basis or race, gender, sexuality etc.

Why would anyone turn away business?

Again, do you really think we live in a nation of neanderthals? No doubt there are a couple, but the vast majority wouldn't discriminate regardless of the equality laws.

The vast majority wouldn't commit a crime but we have crime laws.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

So many replies at once!

@Damocles

I'd imagine the proportion of women in programming jobs is very similar to the proportion of women that are qualified in programming jobs, which is at it should be. I really don't think it's fair to discriminate against men who've worked hard to get their programming qualification in order to add some more women who haven't to address the balance.

I agree that it's a problem though, so I think alternative solutions should be found. Keeping programming as an example, it should be taught far more in schools. Get girls interested in primary school and they may just keep the subject/hobby up until they're making degree choices.

@Steve

I'm pretty young (23), so maybe I'm a little naive. I just think the dinosaurs are in a minority and certainly in a professional environment. You can laugh at a sexist joke at home but still employ women at work.

@Oscar

Again, I may be being naive. I don't think UKIP's rise is due to tons of racists coming out from behind the curtains - it's because a lot of their policies have a common sense element and because a lot of people don't like being dictated to from unelected leaders in Brussels.

@Rascal

I'd argue that the rise of the internet has done much more for getting rid of inequalities. We now get access to worldwide news instantly, can talk about issues with multiple people all over the world in a conversational manner and there's a lot of people sharing their thoughts on issues that are important to them. That's given people a much broader understanding of different cultures.

There are alot of racists who support UKIP though, all you have to do is go on the UKIP facebook pages or the Daily Mails comments section to see it.

And only 9-12% of British law's have an origin from the E.U.

There are lots racist people that support labour, the Tories that are racist though. A lot of normal people support a lot of the ukip policies. I wouldn't vote for them but I wouldn't label all of them as racist

 

[shackattack]

i recently moved to kent and in particular the thanet area in which you would expect farage to have most appeal. i see no great support for him and his stance on immigration is bizarre considering how most of the shops in cliftonville are run by immigrants. he will probably win his seat in south thanet and gain support in the likes of chatham but beyond that to me he is not a threat to labour or conservatives other than a protest vote against the big 2. be interesting to see how al murray fares against him.