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The offside goal is deflecting scrutiny of very serious deficiencies in this side. Whenever an opponent runs through our midfield the defence have a meltdown. The lack of any pace and aggression is concerning. The lack of basic skills like marking and tackling is stark .The lack of an athletic keeper to save shots is magnified.
 
ysmsa said:
I disagree with 1 thing you say ref-VAR

I want to see evidence of VAR at OT and Klanfield!

I'm convinced it does not operate the same as anywhere else, certainly not at our ground.

No big screen VAR checks, no replays of decisions, Linesman flagging opposition players when normally they let play go on to see what happens, if it results in a goal VAR chalks it off (Phil today)

Klanfield last week, basically admitting no camera angle, wtf. We've seen that so many times there.

Something is wrong and I belive the grubby Yanks are all over it. Deliberately delaying installation of proper VAR to make it easier to manipulate decisions.

That odious **** Penandez basically made the VAR decision today, he told Ref and Linesman, Rashford didn't touch the ball, so fuckin what he had control of it and it was passed to him!
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Yeah, I thought in today’s game the ref gave the offside originally - certainly the linesman put his flag up - and then VAR intervened, rather than some kind of Scouse style camera failure. To be honest it doesn’t really matter if the ref gave it wrong and VAR did nothing or if the ref called it right and VAR overruled. Either way they’ve collectively failed to make a simple decision.

Agreed, the Wolves Liverpool match was another absolute shocker. No surprise that the most outrageous decisions always seem to favour certain clubs.

I get the impression they’ve figured out exactly how to give or not give on field calls and make the best use of VAR quirks like camera black spots. That’s what I meant by the ref-VAR industrial complex, they’ve got it worked out now and just use the lack of transparency in the system to produce whatever decisions they want.

Penandez does his moaning every game I see him play. The sooner he leaves the league the better. He’s the kind of player that makes the task of grass roots refs so much harder.
 
Virtually the whole fucking football world and Glenn fucking Hoddle have come out and said it was clearly offside and interfering with play . Rags have brought the game into the gutter yet again and the desperate rag fan base is gloating like a dog with two dicks .Football is seriously fucked football is corrupt to the core !!!
 
East Level 2 said:
Seven hours after the final whistle and six and a half hours after leaving the crumbling cesspit I'm still pissed off. Even a longish drive listening to Liverpool getting shafted hasn't cheered me up.
I accept bent refereeing probably cost us the points but you can't blame Atwell for us only having one attempt on target. Brentford put four past them, Brighton two, Villa three, yet we managed just one attempt. Where was the team that put six past them just three months ago?
Something is wrong on the good ship MCFC and no fucker at the club seems to have a clue how to cure it.
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We also put 6 past them previously , we've been shocking ever since then tbh.
 
Keeper! said:
We need about 5 class players and about the same moving out.

We have seriously declined from 2 seasons ago.
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Putting aside the fact that we were clunky, and still should have won the game, we will have to make some hard decisions over summer.

We are relying upon an ageing, slow midfield (Kev, Gundo, Bernie) and it’s not rocket science that we need a left back. We also, imo, desperately need speedy wingers. We saw what Jack did when he made a couple of brave incursions when he came on, and what a difference it made, and Jack isn’t even quick!

The only other comment I would make is on ‘leadership’. I’ve heard some City podcasts saying we have the leadership to drag us out of this. I’ve never been one to cite the intangible quality of ‘leadership’, but when we don’t have strong personalities like Vinny and Ferna, we seem somewhat rudderless when times get difficult.

The only player I see with this intangible quality is Ruben. When he comes back my first choice centre backs would be he and John, with the others rotating when necessary.
 
Ethan23 said:
The most concerning thing for me is, we've played 3 hours worth of football in the past 4 days and we've mustered 1 shot on target. This means we cannot blame Haaland, we have to start looking at the bigger picture which is the build up and our ability to break the lines.

Fortunately, I'm able to look beyond today's result and accept we've won shit loads recently and if we dont win the Pl this year it isnt the end of the world. For me personally it's all about the CL. Onwards and upwards
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We will get mullered in the champions league on current form 1 shot on target over 2 legged games isnt going to get us very far in that comp, although I have a little optimism when you look at previous champions league winners have won it when they've had shocking domestic seasons like Chelsea have twice.
 
nellyonthewing said:
The offside goal is deflecting scrutiny of very serious deficiencies in this side. Whenever an opponent runs through our midfield the defence have a meltdown. The lack of any pace and aggression is concerning. The lack of basic skills like marking and tackling is stark .The lack of an athletic keeper to save shots is magnified.
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Bollocks! We were winning 1-0 in a derby away from home & we were totally in control. The only chances United had today were from our mistakes. They didn't create anything all game apart from the second goal which wouldn't of happened without the first. How can you blame Ederson for the goals we let in today? The first he was looking at Rashford & the 2nd was just poor defending as we were clearly shell shocked!
You can give up on the title if you want but I think the pain of today is going to set us off on a winning run starting on Thursday.
 
Leeky said:
Not one commentator or pundit has said this goal was on side (only @simon23 ) fuckwit, but all referees and there fuckwits will claim this was a goal, until they scored, this was not a contest
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Oh dear...another one who cant have a reasoned debate without resorting to petty name calling....
 
Bluemoon1979 said:
Bollocks! We were winning 1-0 in a derby away from home & we were totally in control. The only chances United had today were from our mistakes. They didn't create anything all game apart from the second goal which wouldn't of happened without the first. How can you blame Ederson for the goals we let in today? The first he was looking at Rashford & the 2nd was just poor defending as we were clearly shell shocked!
You can give up on the title if you want but I think the pain of today is going to set us off on a winning run starting on Thursday.
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I agree overall. We need to get angry on the field and in the stands. We got proper shafted today whether we are playing well or not. Disgrace. Cheated
 
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