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Vic said:
If Akanji took out Rashford, it would be a free kick because he was fouled before he was given offside, but not a red card for DOGSO as it couldn't be a goal scoring opportunity as he was offside!

Them's the rules!
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I think you are underestimating the ability of referees to interpret the law in perverse ways. If Akanji fouled Rashford and in doing so prevented Fernandes from scoring I wouldn't put it past them to issue a red card as well - and Peter Walton would agree!
 
nellyonthewing said:
He was the main defender for headed clearances from set pieces . Take Mahrez off an out Alvarez on .
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Yes.

Stick Alvarez in midfield for the last 15 minutes and tell him to work his bollocks off like he did for Argentina in the World Cup. If there is a chance to break forward, tell him to take it, otherwise stay in midfield and protect the 0-1 lead. But Pep isn't thinking like that atm.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Let it go now lads
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This derby will be talked about for years. If the Rags comeback continues then this will be seen as the game where they knew they’d reached a turning point. Many will also be hoping that it marks a return to the old order. I don’t think it does - but I do think it might mark the point where genuine competition between us and them returns.

I don’t doubt the ref, consciously or unconsciously felt his role in Rag history because it wasn’t just one decision, his decisions were pro-United all through the game.

Ultimately though we lost the game because of our inability to score more than them. That comes down to some very simple things imo. The inability to get the ball to Haaland, and, it pains me to say it, the poor form of key players - namely Silva, Foden and KDB.

At the same time, other players are doing really well - Ake, Rodri, Grealish. But because we’re not productive enough with the possession we’ve got, United could play like most of the teams who’ve unsettled us this season - wait for a lapse in concentration and do us on the break.
 
Cassandra said:
I think you are underestimating the ability of referees to interpret the law in perverse ways. If Akanji fouled Rashford and in doing so prevented Fernandes from scoring I wouldn't put it past them to issue a red card as well - and Peter Walton would agree!
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Taking into account the interpretation for giving a goal, if Ederson had deflected wide Fernandes shot, would Walton have given a corner or pulled back play to give an offside against Rashford.

My money is on an offside decision.
 
spiny said:
Taking into account the interpretation for giving a goal, if Ederson had deflected wide Fernandes shot, would Walton have given a corner or pulled back play to give an offside against Rashford.

My money is on an offside decision.
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I make you right. Lino's flag would have gone up. Free kick to us for the offside. Nothing to see here.
 
cheekybids said:
Consider the last few pens the Rags have been given at the Etihad. Its soft, there’s contact but they get them & we don’t.
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I dont disagree but 2 wrongs n all that. It doesnt make theirs pens

I think back to the hatchet job on aguero in that cup game when we were 2-0 down and got back to 2-2. A clearer pen youll never see.
But it still doesnt make me think the tackle on cancelo was a foul
 
The Rags won the derby game because they cheated , Fernandes sneaked in knowing our defenders had virtually stopped for the offside , he's a snidey little c*nt who took advantage of lilly livered officials who couldnt stand up to the Swamp atmosphere , the first half was 50/50 , but we dominated the 2nd half. The only way the Rags were getting back into the game was for the referee to present them with a goal , there winning run will soon end and they can then scrap it out with Spuds and Newcastle for a top four place.
We have been nowhere near last seasons standard especially in defence but we are still 2nd in the league and unless we do the double over the Goons that's unfortunatley were we will stay until the end of the season
Despite Saturday's result we are still miles ahead of the Rags , we just need to get some of our key players back to form and push the Goons and if we are within five or six points at Easter , the Goons arses will go , there young side apart from Zinchenko and Jesus have zero experience of a tense title run-in , we can live in hope :)
 
spiny said:
Taking into account the interpretation for giving a goal, if Ederson had deflected wide Fernandes shot, would Walton have given a corner or pulled back play to give an offside against Rashford.

My money is on an offside decision.
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Nope , he would’ve given pk, red card to eddie and 6 points deduction.
You know it’s his “subjective “ decision.
 
citymad said:
Spot on. Not so much Cann, he did his job.it was Attwells and Oliver’s fuck up. They should’ve used the monitor. Mind you they’re so incompetent they would’ve stuck by their decision.
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Cann is just as culpable. His part in this is saying Rashford didn't touch the ball. How would he know? He was 35 yards away from the ball, and during the passage of play he had Akanji and Rashford between him and the ball. So unless he can see through obstacles, he's telling lies.
 
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