United (N) | FA Cup Final | Post-Match Thread

[havefaith]

Most things have been said to death, but, one major moment needs to be savoured in particular.
Johnny Stones in, I think the 47th minute - tried to make a mental note as it was so good - when he took the ball under pressure on the edge of our box; controlled; drop of the shoulder; turned and strolled out towards the half line, leaving 3 scummers trailing in his wake.
Absolutely top, top drawer. M.O.M. for me.

Enjoy, 70 secs in, as you say top drawer.

 

[lazerblue]

For me the most obvious consideration is did it change the trajectory of the ball in any meaningful way. It not case closed it it did then consider intent proximity etc. At least get rid of the faintest glances that don't impact where the ball ends up being given

Wasn't the wank bissaka handball looked at

 

[hello]

Wasn't the wank bissaka handball looked at

Doubt it the wank bastard had a red shirt on

 

[bennyboy]

 

[Pollocks OG]

Felt like I was close to having a heart attack when that hit the back of the net. Never heard or felt anything like it.

 

[Vienna_70]

I don't watch the Rags unless we play them mate, such is my utter hatred for them, so I can't comment on that one.

There will always be an element of interpretation. Handball is handball, however if the arm is down & the ball hit with power from short range, I've seen calls like that correctly ruled out because of the close proximity.

However, who determines what "close proximity" is & what a "power shot/pass" is? Again this is where interpretation & opinion come in.

Having said this, the arm being away from the body in an unnatural position is probably the closest we'll get to a resolution where there's more for this rule than against it.

But again as pointed out by Grealish, how's he supposed to jump & keep his arms down whilst trying to gain leverage?

It's unfair as Grealish evidently didn't intentionally intend to handle the ball, but I'll give you a scenario if you can be so kind as to give me your considered opinion...

So when keepers are faced with an onrushing player preparing to shoot, goalies are told to make themselves as big as possible to provide a block. I think on this one we can all agree.

Now as someone commented earlier, all handball's should be judged on intent, which is all about interpretation & opinion. But here's a scenario...

A defender (just like a keeper) makes himself big to block a chance which strikes his outstretched arm. He knows a cross or shot is coming, he makes himself big & turns to the side so he's not looking at the ball & the ball strikes his outstretched arm, blocking a cross or shot.

A. Is that handball?

B. Is it intentional?

C. Is it unintentional?

If a defender has spread himself as wide as possible with outstretched arms, it’s deliberate handball, as it’s a premeditated action.

That’s why players hold their hands behind their backs nowadays.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

That’s why I gave it a swerve this time. 2011 was a disgrace, Bobby hats and families getting attacked, our coach lost 3 windows on the way back. I’m too old for that shit. well done to all the Blues who travelled today, came across really well on TV

You have to support your club.

The organisation and experience yesterday was the best ever, absolutely superb !!

 

[Postman Pep]

 

[Dribble]

If a defender has spread himself as wide as possible with outstretched arms, it’s deliberate handball, as it’s a premeditated action.

That’s why players hold their hands behind their backs nowadays.

If he had his back turned & claimed his arms were out to maintain balance as he turned to face his opponent?

 

[Vienna_70]

So I've only just noticed we played in the old shirt not the new one worn last week at Brentford, I heard it was going to be the new one, strange, glad we played in the old, hope we do next week.

How magnificent would it have been that the Gundog scored his first ever hat-trick in the FA Cup final?