United thread 2012/13 (inc merged IPO thread)

[Anonymous]

Apparently they're selling the naming rights for Old Trafford and will be called The DHL arena.

Fucking brilliant haha!!

'The Theatre of Overnight Delivery' hahahahaha

"Courier Corner" ?

Trafford Transporters?

The Red Deliverymen?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Apparently they're selling the naming rights for Old Trafford and will be called The DHL arena.

Fucking brilliant haha!!

That would bring in some serious cash for them, no doubt.

On the plus side it'll be interesting to see ticket tout Charlton's reaction after he said this:

Sir Bobby Charlton has taken a swipe at Manchester City over the £400million deal to sell their stadium naming rights.

United legend Charlton said his club would never rename Old Trafford for commercial gain.

"When teams in the lower ­divisions are short of cash, then fair dos, good luck to them if they do a deal," said the Reds director.

"But I can only say that it’s not our policy to change the name of Old Trafford. It’s too ­important."

No worries - Uncle Malc will be using it to pay the PIKs. Looks like Fergie´s got his way this time but they´ll be fooked in future windows

Baconface won't care about future windows as this is probably his last season. I assume the conversation went something like:
"Gi'us some money tae spend this summer!"
"We don't have any Alex. We're in hock up to the eyeballs."
"Well good luck when youse tell Mourinho that in the interview. Or shall I ring Moysie and tell him the job's his if he wants it. He's good on a budget."

 

[Viva Rivaldo]

Thought I'd put my thoughts on RVP in here, though I feel like a pissed-up football fan who has wandered unwittingly into an accounting lecture.

What nobody on here has seemed to have mentioned - understandably - is the effect that signing RVP will have on Rooney. I don't mean as a player (not directly, anyway) but what it'll force him to do mentally.

Since Ronaldo left, over the past three years Rooney has been far and away our most important player. I know it, you know, he definitely fucking knows it. He has been the main man, and what's more, he's acted like it. You can see an arrogance in his play that underpins his overall contribution, and our 'reliance' on him to produce those match-winning moments has left us rather anemic when faced with the possibility of playing for any length of time without him.

My feelings towards Rooney are, I expect, somewhat similar to most of yours regarding Tevez. Amazing player. Can do some incredible things with a football that I'd have trouble recreating in my imagination...but he's a bellend. I remember his first game back after his contract 'saga' when he was warming up in front of us, lapping up the applause and boos as if the previous few weeks' matches without him were just a side-show to the main event that was Wayne Rooney's return. The depressing thing is that he was probably right.

What RvP will hopefully do, is shatter Rooney's aura of invincibility in our starting line-up. I'm not overjoyed that we've purchased him (29, only a year left on his contract, big fee, huge wages, injury record, his impact on Welbeck's development) but to deny that signing a world class forward is anything but a good thing, would be a bit silly. I can't wait to see the look on Rooney's face when RvP starts performing on HIS turf. Hopefully it'll shove a dildo-shaped incentive up his gaping ego.

Good post VR. Nice to see you around here a bit more lately mate.

You fucking dirty rag **** ;-)

Thanks!

Hopefully he´ll throw his fookin toys out again ;)

This could very well be what happens. Perhaps I'm too optimistic in thinking it'd get him to pull his finger out.

 

[southstand117]

Thought I'd put my thoughts on RVP in here, though I feel like a pissed-up football fan who has wandered unwittingly into an accounting lecture.

What nobody on here has seemed to have mentioned - understandably - is the effect that signing RVP will have on Rooney. I don't mean as a player (not directly, anyway) but what it'll force him to do mentally.

Since Ronaldo left, over the past three years Rooney has been far and away our most important player. I know it, you know, he definitely fucking knows it. He has been the main man, and what's more, he's acted like it. You can see an arrogance in his play that underpins his overall contribution, and our 'reliance' on him to produce those match-winning moments has left us rather anemic when faced with the possibility of playing for any length of time without him.

My feelings towards Rooney are, I expect, somewhat similar to most of yours regarding Tevez. Amazing player. Can do some incredible things with a football that I'd have trouble recreating in my imagination...but he's a bellend. I remember his first game back after his contract 'saga' when he was warming up in front of us, lapping up the applause and boos as if the previous few weeks' matches without him were just a side-show to the main event that was Wayne Rooney's return. The depressing thing is that he was probably right.

What RvP will hopefully do, is shatter Rooney's aura of invincibility in our starting line-up. I'm not overjoyed that we've purchased him (29, only a year left on his contract, big fee, huge wages, injury record, his impact on Welbeck's development) but to deny that signing a world class forward is anything but a good thing, would be a bit silly. I can't wait to see the look on Rooney's face when RvP starts performing on HIS turf. Hopefully it'll shove a dildo-shaped incentive up his gaping ego.

Good post I was waiting for you post your view.
I said the same to my brother last night(who's a red) that both Rooney and RVP scored a hell of a lot of goals, was it 30+each? They both can't do this again surely so who will sacrifice? Surely not RVP after fergie splashing out big £££ on him so it'll be interesting to see how Rooney reacts. Anyhow at least you might have a shot on target in the derby ;)

 

[Viva Rivaldo]

Good post I was waiting for you post your view.
I said the same to my brother last night(who's a red) that both Rooney and RVP scored a hell of a lot of goals, was it 30+each? They both can't do this again surely so who will sacrifice? Surely not RVP after fergie splashing out big £££ on him so it'll be interesting to see how Rooney reacts. Anyhow at least you might have a shot on target in the derby ;)

The thing I dread most is that it's part of SAF's dastardly plan to regress Rooney into a much deeper midfield role. He has played superbly well as a '10 at times in the last couple of seasons, but we now have Kagawa who is a natural there.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Thought I'd put my thoughts on RVP in here, though I feel like a pissed-up football fan who has wandered unwittingly into an accounting lecture.

What nobody on here has seemed to have mentioned - understandably - is the effect that signing RVP will have on Rooney. I don't mean as a player (not directly, anyway) but what it'll force him to do mentally.

Since Ronaldo left, over the past three years Rooney has been far and away our most important player. I know it, you know, he definitely fucking knows it. He has been the main man, and what's more, he's acted like it. You can see an arrogance in his play that underpins his overall contribution, and our 'reliance' on him to produce those match-winning moments has left us rather anemic when faced with the possibility of playing for any length of time without him.

My feelings towards Rooney are, I expect, somewhat similar to most of yours regarding Tevez. Amazing player. Can do some incredible things with a football that I'd have trouble recreating in my imagination...but he's a bellend. I remember his first game back after his contract 'saga' when he was warming up in front of us, lapping up the applause and boos as if the previous few weeks' matches without him were just a side-show to the main event that was Wayne Rooney's return. The depressing thing is that he was probably right.

What RvP will hopefully do, is shatter Rooney's aura of invincibility in our starting line-up. I'm not overjoyed that we've purchased him (29, only a year left on his contract, big fee, huge wages, injury record, his impact on Welbeck's development) but to deny that signing a world class forward is anything but a good thing, would be a bit silly. I can't wait to see the look on Rooney's face when RvP starts performing on HIS turf. Hopefully it'll shove a dildo-shaped incentive up his gaping ego.

I know he (Rooney) won't be to happy that Piers Morgan called him "the number 2 striker at old Trafford"

 

[dave_blue12]

Thought I'd put my thoughts on RVP in here, though I feel like a pissed-up football fan who has wandered unwittingly into an accounting lecture.

What nobody on here has seemed to have mentioned - understandably - is the effect that signing RVP will have on Rooney. I don't mean as a player (not directly, anyway) but what it'll force him to do mentally.

Since Ronaldo left, over the past three years Rooney has been far and away our most important player. I know it, you know, he definitely fucking knows it. He has been the main man, and what's more, he's acted like it. You can see an arrogance in his play that underpins his overall contribution, and our 'reliance' on him to produce those match-winning moments has left us rather anemic when faced with the possibility of playing for any length of time without him.

My feelings towards Rooney are, I expect, somewhat similar to most of yours regarding Tevez. Amazing player. Can do some incredible things with a football that I'd have trouble recreating in my imagination...but he's a bellend. I remember his first game back after his contract 'saga' when he was warming up in front of us, lapping up the applause and boos as if the previous few weeks' matches without him were just a side-show to the main event that was Wayne Rooney's return. The depressing thing is that he was probably right.

What RvP will hopefully do, is shatter Rooney's aura of invincibility in our starting line-up. I'm not overjoyed that we've purchased him (29, only a year left on his contract, big fee, huge wages, injury record, his impact on Welbeck's development) but to deny that signing a world class forward is anything but a good thing, would be a bit silly. I can't wait to see the look on Rooney's face when RvP starts performing on HIS turf. Hopefully it'll shove a dildo-shaped incentive up his gaping ego.

All good points but you are making some assumptions.

1. RVP will be in completely different surroundings, playing with different players in a different system - he may well struggle to perform (his performances for Holland haven't exactly set the world alight)
2. Rooney may react differently to the way you assume. He may get pissed off if he deems RVP is getting all the intention and sulk like the manchild he is.

It will be fascinating to watch how this all works out particularly as I think SAF is more motivator than tactician and he has to find a way to get the best out of a Rooney/RVP partnership.

I think that, given both players are used to being the focal point, that there could well be some problems for SAF getting it to work and given that I think it will take around 90 points to win the league again this year Utd haven't got the luxury of having a few poor results while they work it out.

As a City fan I am completely comfortable with the season ahead - bring it on !

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Thought I'd put my thoughts on RVP in here, though I feel like a pissed-up football fan who has wandered unwittingly into an accounting lecture.

What nobody on here has seemed to have mentioned - understandably - is the effect that signing RVP will have on Rooney. I don't mean as a player (not directly, anyway) but what it'll force him to do mentally.

Since Ronaldo left, over the past three years Rooney has been far and away our most important player. I know it, you know, he definitely fucking knows it. He has been the main man, and what's more, he's acted like it. You can see an arrogance in his play that underpins his overall contribution, and our 'reliance' on him to produce those match-winning moments has left us rather anemic when faced with the possibility of playing for any length of time without him.

My feelings towards Rooney are, I expect, somewhat similar to most of yours regarding Tevez. Amazing player. Can do some incredible things with a football that I'd have trouble recreating in my imagination...but he's a bellend. I remember his first game back after his contract 'saga' when he was warming up in front of us, lapping up the applause and boos as if the previous few weeks' matches without him were just a side-show to the main event that was Wayne Rooney's return. The depressing thing is that he was probably right.

What RvP will hopefully do, is shatter Rooney's aura of invincibility in our starting line-up. I'm not overjoyed that we've purchased him (29, only a year left on his contract, big fee, huge wages, injury record, his impact on Welbeck's development) but to deny that signing a world class forward is anything but a good thing, would be a bit silly. I can't wait to see the look on Rooney's face when RvP starts performing on HIS turf. Hopefully it'll shove a dildo-shaped incentive up his gaping ego.

Whatever way it motivates Wooney, I wouldn't put any money on him going on a diet.

 

[Anonymous]

Good post I was waiting for you post your view.
I said the same to my brother last night(who's a red) that both Rooney and RVP scored a hell of a lot of goals, was it 30+each? They both can't do this again surely so who will sacrifice? Surely not RVP after fergie splashing out big £££ on him so it'll be interesting to see how Rooney reacts. Anyhow at least you might have a shot on target in the derby ;)

The thing I dread most is that it's part of SAF's dastardly plan to regress Rooney into a much deeper midfield role. He has played superbly well as a '10 at times in the last couple of seasons, but we now have Kagawa who is a natural there.

You might see Rooney deeper, but realistically with Kagawa, wouldn't it be a front 2? If they hit it off, they are going to be potent, but as you have already covered, egos could be an issue.

 

[Viva Rivaldo]

All good points but you are making some assumptions.

1. RVP will be in completely different surroundings, playing with different players in a different system - he may well struggle to perform (his performances for Holland haven't exactly set the world alight)
2. Rooney may react differently to the way you assume. He may get pissed off if he deems RVP is getting all the intention and sulk like the manchild he is.

It will be fascinating to watch how this all works out particularly as I think SAF is more motivator than tactician and he has to find a way to get the best out of a Rooney/RVP partnership.

I think that, given both players are used to being the focal point, that there could well be some problems for SAF getting it to work and given that I think it will take around 90 points to win the league again this year Utd haven't got the luxury of having a few poor results while they work it out.

As a City fan I am completely comfortable with the season ahead - bring it on !

Great points, but I think;

1. He'll be playing in a better team, which thrives on wing play and providing for our strikers. At Arsenal, he was forced to play deep a lot of the time, whereas at United I assume he'll be the spearhead of our attack. He'll get the service, of that I have no doubt.

2. Rooney was in Ronaldo's shadow for many years, but didn't throw a hissy fit about that. He realised that if he knuckled down and did his job for the good of the team, it'd all work out. Hopefully he does the same this time.

At least it makes it more exciting. I'd have preferred getting a quality midfielder in, but seeing as our manager clearly thinks our midfield is superb, then this is one of the next best things.