United thread 2012/13 (inc merged IPO thread)

[waspish]

Think the announcement of a statue at the toilet has beefed it up!

 

[Dirty Harry]

Just watched and my view is:

– the Shelvey red was harsh. He did nothing different to Evans in that tackle. It was 50/50.
- the Suarez penalty call was correct.
- the Valencia penalty was correct. He'd actually gone outside instead of playing the ball across the box and was no threat when Johnson clattered into the back of him. Stupid one to give away.
- if Shelvey's was a red then van Persie's certainly was.

Sorry not having the Valencia pen. There was no contact!

I thought not too.

There was no contact on the foot/leg (which I initially thought there was given the angle Johnson came in at) but there was a slight push in the small of his back, and that's what bothers me, Valencia, arguably one of the strongest players in the country, goes down like a sack of shit from the merest touch.

 

[Matty]

I can't comment on the penalty as I've not seen the challenge. I have seen the Shelvey red card, in my mind it was definitely a red. However I think Evans was equally as quilty as Shelvey, he left the ground too, and went in with 2 feet. What saved him punishment was it was Evans that ended up being caught by Shelvey and not the other way round. However, as proven by Kompany last year, you don't even have to make contact for the ref to issue a red card, and for the FA to back up the referee on the matter. For me Shelvey and Evans deserved the same punishment, book both, send both off, or "have a word" with both, but don't punish one and let the other off scott free just because he is the one rolling on the floor injured.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I can't comment on the penalty as I've not seen the challenge. I have seen the Shelvey red card, in my mind it was definitely a red. However I think Evans was equally as quilty as Shelvey, he left the ground too, and went in with 2 feet. What saved him punishment was it was Evans that ended up being caught by Shelvey and not the other way round. However, as proven by Kompany last year, you don't even have to make contact for the ref to issue a red card, and for the FA to back up the referee on the matter. For me Shelvey and Evans deserved the same punishment, book both, send both off, or "have a word" with both, but don't punish one and let the other off scott free just because he is the one rolling on the floor injured.

equally as quilty? some duvet you've got.

 

[Matty]

I can't comment on the penalty as I've not seen the challenge. I have seen the Shelvey red card, in my mind it was definitely a red. However I think Evans was equally as quilty as Shelvey, he left the ground too, and went in with 2 feet. What saved him punishment was it was Evans that ended up being caught by Shelvey and not the other way round. However, as proven by Kompany last year, you don't even have to make contact for the ref to issue a red card, and for the FA to back up the referee on the matter. For me Shelvey and Evans deserved the same punishment, book both, send both off, or "have a word" with both, but don't punish one and let the other off scott free just because he is the one rolling on the floor injured.

equally as quilty? some duvet you've got.

I've re-read that post 3 or 4 times and read quilty as guilty every time!

 

[The Future's Blue]

Anyone know why the share price rocketed up? It's back to 13.37 when not too long ago it was around 12.00

It's not going to go up that much for no reason, has there been something I've missed?

I think somebody is propping it up (Soros maybe) because as soon as it hit the $12 mark there was a huge upsurge. This isn't normal trading unless they've got a whiff of something, maybe some more shares being floated?

If you think about it, with Uniteds recent accounts you could possibly say that they've got to go back to the well with the leaking bucket.

 

[Zardon132]

Anyone know why the share price rocketed up? It's back to 13.37 when not too long ago it was around 12.00

It's not going to go up that much for no reason, has there been something I've missed?

I think somebody is propping it up (Soros maybe) because as soon as it hit the $12 mark there was a huge upsurge. This isn't normal trading unless they've got a whiff of something, maybe some more shares being floated?

If you think about it, with Uniteds recent accounts you could possibly say that they've got to go back to the well with the leaking bucket.

I'm pretty sure they're not conducting insider trading lol. Must be something we've missed.

 

[bleed.blue]

Anyone know why the share price rocketed up? It's back to 13.37 when not too long ago it was around 12.00

It's not going to go up that much for no reason, has there been something I've missed?

I think the performances over the last couple of weeks have helped strengthen the investors' faith that their biggest asset and strengths are still working, the REFREES.
The way officials have been giving decisions in their favor, it can only mean one thing, titles for the sc*m. and titles mean more prize money and more popularity which means more money as well. Hence the share price goes up.

 

[LoveCity]

Vidic out for 8 weeks again after a knee operation. He doesn't physically look the same to me since coming back and they will probably cope again without him.

 

[MSP]

He looks like he got AIDS and not had knee surgery.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Vidic out, hopefully United's defence crumbles completely now, is it the same knee?

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Vidic out for 8 weeks again after a knee operation. He doesn't physically look the same to me since coming back and they will probably cope again without him.

with a helping hand from the officials of course

 

[Matty]

Vidic out, hopefully United's defence crumbles completely now, is it the same knee?

Yeah it's the same knee. I said when United fans were talking about getting him back that I doubted he'd be the same player as before his injury. Knee ligament injury is a tough one to fully recover from, especially when you're 30/31.

 

[MSP]

He'll never be same player again.

 

[weetabixhead]

Vidic out for 8 weeks again after a knee operation. He doesn't physically look the same to me since coming back and they will probably cope again without him.

with a helping hand from the officials of course

Expect at least 3 penners & four red cards handed this weekend, the later to Spuds.

 

[Matty]

With Vidic, Smalling and Jones all out injured it only leaves Evans and Ferdinand as fit centre halves (and I believe there are fitness issues surrounding Ferdinand too). If United have to spend any period of time with an Evans/Carrick centre half pairing they'll drop a decent number of points.

 

[Deepest Blue]

Vidic out, hopefully United's defence crumbles completely now, is it the same knee?

Yeah it's the same knee. I said when United fans were talking about getting him back that I doubted he'd be the same player as before his injury. Knee ligament injury is a tough one to fully recover from, especially when you're 30/31.

You did Matty.

Good call.

 

[@BluePhil8]

I realise that i am two days late with this post but i have to share. I am literally in stitches after just reading through the following thread on red cafe;

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/f7/shelvey-red-card-359480/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/f7/shelvey-red-card-359480/</a>

Now to be fair about ten percent of the posters on that thread have held there hands up and said that Evans should have walked as well. What is funny however is that after seeing the following GIF, the other ninety percent of the fans are actually still defending Evans.

A few personal highlights are as followed:

You can clearly see Evans just about tried to pass the ball away. His studs are only showing because of the camera view.

Evans actually went for the ball look at his eyes, Shelveys intent was to get the player.

Lmao "look at his eyes"

Evans had no intention of going into the challange dangerously or two footedly. Initially, he comes in with one leg and even side-footed.

The justification from the Rags seems to be "but Evans went for the ball"... So? Am i missing something? It doesn't matter if he went for the ball. What matters is the fact that he went in to a tackle with both feet of the floor and with stood's showing, also his body was completely off the ground meaning he was out of control and put an opponent at risk.

Fifa's definition of serious foul play: Any player who lunges at an opponent when challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent, is guilty of serious foul play.

Therefore it was a red card... where is the Press campaign to get Evans a 3 match ban like we had to endure with Balotelli and Adebayor a few seasons ago? It is no where to be seen ¬_¬.

If you want to know what the Rag fans really think just go on this link;

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/f6/kompany-red-card-346608/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/f6/kompany-red-card-346608/</a>

Two footed, open studs.

He won the ball but he went in 2 footed. You can't jump in like he did and expect to get away with it.

Studs were up.

 

[bluestreak]

With Vidic, Smalling and Jones all out injured it only leaves Evans and Ferdinand as fit centre halves (and I believe there are fitness issues surrounding Ferdinand too). If United have to spend any period of time with an Evans/Carrick centre half pairing they'll drop a decent number of points.

Is there anybody they can bring back from retirement ala Scholes. Whats Pallister doing these days?

 

[LoveCity]

With Vidic, Smalling and Jones all out injured it only leaves Evans and Ferdinand as fit centre halves (and I believe there are fitness issues surrounding Ferdinand too). If United have to spend any period of time with an Evans/Carrick centre half pairing they'll drop a decent number of points.

They always seem to cope though. I despise the bastids but they could have their youth team out and would still find a way (with some help from the man in black) to scrape a draw away at Chelsea or something.