United thread 2013/14 (continued)

[Blue Til Death]

Ask any player in the world which club would you wish to play for and United would be on that list,without doubt.

What a silly-sausage, arrogant thing to say. Tell me why they would want to play for United at present. To play for Moyes? To play alongside Johnny Evans? To play in a big stadium? Players will go where the trophies are, and United won't be amongst the mix for trophies as long as Moyes is in charge there, and that my friend is a fact. Players will go to us, Arsenal and Chelsea before they go there now, and whoever finishes 4th too, especially if it's Liverpool.
You will have to settle for players in desperate situations and players in the 'good but not great' group of players.

Why what's wrong with Johnny Evans ? He'd get in City's team arguably alongside Kompany.

It was Utd who made a lot of players great.

Eh..! He wouldn't make the bench in the City team, man for man your team is inferior in every way bar none, your defence is a joke and your team has become a joke, you are an irrelevance, and you will be having a snowball fight in hell before your vile team decides to boycott the FA Cup again.. Piss can knew what he was doing when he put spongebob at the helm. You should nip back to rag café where you delusional rantings have an audience. Bye..!

 

[No6]

What a silly-sausage, arrogant thing to say. Tell me why they would want to play for United at present. To play for Moyes? To play alongside Johnny Evans? To play in a big stadium? Players will go where the trophies are, and United won't be amongst the mix for trophies as long as Moyes is in charge there, and that my friend is a fact. Players will go to us, Arsenal and Chelsea before they go there now, and whoever finishes 4th too, especially if it's Liverpool.
You will have to settle for players in desperate situations and players in the 'good but not great' group of players.

Why what's wrong with Johnny Evans ? He'd get in City's team arguably alongside Kompany.

It was Utd who made a lot of players great.

Now I know you are on the piss take!

Oooh you little tinker you!

here was me thinking you were really a Rag. At least now I know you're just a fellow blue on the wind-up.

Nice effort Blue :)

 

[KentBlue]

He's obviously a troll. Vinny and that useless c..t Evans in the same sentence?

 

[BigJoe#1]

Ah poor boy, Cleverley doesn't like it up him...

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Wow, that is a cry for help and a plea to "leave me alone".

You know what to do Blues.."

 

[Anonymous]

Ah poor boy, Cleverley doesn't like it up him...

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Poor little love

"My job goes under the radar at times. I am not a player who's going to beat three or four people and stick it in the top corner or go round tackling people like Roy Keane."

What else is his job if not beating players, scoring or tackling?

"I watch Spanish football a lot, If they pass the ball sideways but keep possession, the fans clap them."

Ahh, OK, that clears that up then.

 

[dazdon]

Our noisy neighbours representative is on a roll today.

What do you think the score is going to be against arsenal on Wednesday?

 

[Anonymous]

Our quiet neighbours representative is a troll today.

What do you think the score is going to be against arsenal on Wednesday?

Fixed

 

[Blue2112]

I wouldn't argue that there was a time when any player would have gone to United but that was in another decade and as we all know football is a different game to the one we all grew up with. These days money and lifestyle are big choices for a footballer, the lure of London's bright lights or Gusto's in Alderley Edge or San Carlo in Manchester town centre doesn't compare especially to those who are aged in the mid 20's bracket who are arguably at their peak. I think they'd have a bigger sway over younger prospects (Janetjizz) or those looking for one more big pay day (RVP) but it's a different mindset with the big guns who have the choice of multiple major clubs (every bit as big as United) in some of the best cities across Europe to choose from. Yes the football club, it's history and standing in the game will play a part but I don't believe it is the biggest factor anymore. Money, lifestyle, success/trophies and the football club are in that order I would argue what decides a footballers movements these days.

 

[Anonymous]

Morning Strets.

Apologies if you've already passed an opinion, whats your take on what's happening at your place? The media are seemingly starting to crank up the pressure (Spencer on Talksport last night was proper chopping his onions as was Custis this morning) and that usually only leads to the inevitable. Do you think he'll get it right? Do you think he'll be given the time he needs?

Wee 6ft 1 Davey has had a baptism of fire,and like I,ve said he's been very unlucky ,I would be astonished if he lost his job ( btw I don't like anyone losing their regardless of their profession ,unless they are MP) it's only just recent that I think he's losing his nerve,team selection wise.

What you have to remember that this situation is unique for most of the players too,much is said of their experience in title run ins ,but this is different.Sundays game was quite enjoyable in a way it was funny when Utd scored twice ,and when nowhere near as frustrating as you would imagine when Fulham equalised.I wasn't having a dig at City when I said I would have been fuming if Utd were title contenders,when the final whistle went.

I have the feeling they are preparing basically for two cup finals v City and Liverpool and a best attempt at the CL as possible.Unfortunately Big Davey will find out you just can't switch on from like a light switch,winning is a habit.

Will he get it right? I could manage sides with the talent the top teams have? So yes ,but he has a big job on replacing some very reliable big names,so his recruitment will be vital.

Whatever happens enjoy this time ,because without doubt Utd will be back winning and frustrating you lot before too long,they won't do a Liverpool .As we see money talks and as loathsome as we think our owners ours ,they are successful business men ,who love money.

Even if they fail ,the queue to invest in Utd is endless,much to your chagrin they are a license to print money,that will never go away.

Other than that FC will have their new ground by then and they will be on the march

Cheers for that.

All of this is very much an outsider looking in. Without going over old ground they are certainly big shoes for him to fill; just amazed the powers that be thought Moyes would be adequate. Whilst not on the same level of calamity, I get the feeling it is similar to our Ball appointment - i.e. someone believing he'd do a job given a decent opportunity.

If I supported your lot I'd have looked at the appointment and thought "he's got a track record of working on a shoestring, getting a team full of strong, dogged but dour footballers and he's won nowt." That would have set a load of alarm bells ringing as to what direction the owners want the club to take (again without going over the old ground of their stewardship of your club). I'd have questioned why an available Mourinho was not at least interviewed or why overtures were not made to the other "top" European managers.

It's going to be interesting what happens in the summer. I posted a good while back that whilst I could understand going for Mata once it was clear he was available, it was possibly the area of your team that required least attention at that point. I was amazed, given the money he had available based on Mata's fee, he didn't immediately invest in a centre half, left back or box to box type midfielder (very easy to say all that rather than point to who was available at the time, I appreciate).

As for the money, there are always plenty of stories about you's signing every single top player on the planet every window, but in a season where it is a distinct possibility there'll be no silverware and possibly no Champions League or Europa League football next season either, potentially you will have a limited recruitment pool. On top of that, with the players he already wants to cull there is also the worry your "crown jewels" might want out too.

Absolute mammoth task for any manager to pull off.

As for FC - what happens when the Glazers eventually do go? Does everyone who left flock back?

 

[hihosilva]

Ah poor boy, Cleverley doesn't like it up him...

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Poor little love

"My job goes under the radar at times. I am not a player who's going to beat three or four people and stick it in the top corner or go round tackling people like Roy Keane."

What else is his job if not beating players, scoring or tackling?

"I watch Spanish football a lot, If they pass the ball sideways but keep possession, the fans clap them."

Ahh, OK, that clears that up then.

"My job goes under the radar at times. I am not a player who's going to beat three or four people and stick it in the top corner or go round tackling people like Roy Keane."

What else is his job if not beating players, scoring or tackling?


Just what i was thinking when i read it.
How much are you getting paid Cleverley & for what.

 

[laserblue]

Top 4 is no honour for Utd we are use to better than that,6 th will do me fine ( outside the EL) no European football next season will be a blessing for both the team and the supporter.

Well then, the bad news for you is that if City win the League Cup or if the FA Cup final is contested by two teams in the top 5 then 6th place will qualify for the Europa League. If both occur then 7th will qualify. I'd say there's a pretty good chance United will be spending Thursday nights next season sampling the delights of Siberia, Belarus and central Turkey.

Ask any player in the world which club would you wish to play for and United would be on that list,without doubt.

This isn't 1999 you know. There's an even bigger list of players who've snubbed United in recent years and even last summer alone. What makes you think that any top player would dream of signing for United when they have no CL on offer and a buffoon as a manager? Any that might do so must of course be mercenaries....

 

[Anonymous]

Ask any player in the world which club would you wish to play for and United would be on that list,without doubt.

What a silly-sausage, arrogant thing to say. Tell me why they would want to play for United at present. To play for Moyes? To play alongside Johnny Evans? To play in a big stadium? Players will go where the trophies are, and United won't be amongst the mix for trophies as long as Moyes is in charge there, and that my friend is a fact. Players will go to us, Arsenal and Chelsea before they go there now, and whoever finishes 4th too, especially if it's Liverpool.
You will have to settle for players in desperate situations and players in the 'good but not great' group of players.

Why what's wrong with Johnny Evans ? He'd get in City's team arguably alongside Kompany.

It was Utd who made a lot of players great.

FFS. I've just typed out what I thought was a reasoned response to you and then you go and spoil it all by doing something stupid like saying Johnny Evans would make City's side.

More fool me, eh?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Regarding the current crop of players or as they are still known Champions, the squad is as good as any in the Prem inc City,first eleven no,squad yes.
It's obvious the change of management hasn't gone down well with the experience players ,and it's looks like most of them will be off ski sooner than expected , but I,m sure they will purchase suitable replacements ,they have done in the past,so I can't see why that should change.

Let me tell you about this squad that is as good as any in the PL. Around Christmas time I was talking to a journalist who covers the Manchester clubs for one of the big papers. I've known this guy for some time and our families go back even further. Him (and some other journalists) had been briefed by club insiders about Moyes' plans for the squad. Of that established squad, there were 6 names considered not good enough.

Obviously Anderson was one, along with Valencia, Young & Nani. At the back Smalling and Jones were considered too limited and hadn't developed sufficiently. Moyes and Ferdinand don't speak after Rio lost his rag with Moyes, who told him he should aspire to be Phil Jagielka. Camelgob reeled off what he'd won and said to Moyes "Now - what the fuck have you & Phil Jagielka won?" In addition, Cleverley has been given another season to prove himself or he's out the door as well.

Of the new players Zaha simply didn't train well enough so they fucked him off and then there's Fellaini. When they train, they have two 'keep ball' circles with the technically better players in one and the others in the second. Fellaini apparently can't even reach the standard of the latter circle he is so poor technically. And that's what they paid £27.5m for (which is more than we paid for Silva, Nasri or Yaya). Evra would like to stay but there's no word one way or the other from the club.

So this squad now seems to consist of Rafael, Evans, Buttner, possibly Evra, Varela (who hasn't played), Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini, Cleverley (who's on a last chance), Kagawa, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj, Welbeck, Hernadez and RVP.

And of those, Kagawa, Hernandez and van Persie are very unhappy, particularly the latter. That's your squad of "champions".

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Its amazing to think that the rags will have to spend around about £100 million with not much coming back to get a team near challenging next season added to the £64.6 million or if it was us £200 million as the media include wages. So what slur actually did was leave a team that needs a £200 million face lift as opposed to his view of a team built for the future. Unless by future he meant mid table mediocrity

 

[Pigeonho]

Bravo Prestwich Blue. Brathefuckvo!

It's impossible to come back with any kind of reply to that, imthefuckpossible.

The fuck.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Serious question to all.

They dont get top 4. What does Shrek do???

Will the Kings road be calling??

 

[Pigeonho]

Serious question to all.

They dont get top 4. What does Shrek do???

Will the Kings road be calling??

He's probably assured them he will stay if they sign quality in the summer, regardless of their position in the league come the end of the season. Thing is though, as was explained to our red friend above, who the fuck are they going to attract if they fail to make CL? I would say nobody of any worth. If Rooney goes, I would say it would be next January if summer is a total disaster for them.

 

[CheethamHillBlue]

I have the feeling they are preparing basically for two cup finals v City and Liverpool and a best attempt at the CL as possible.Unfortunately Big Davey will find out you just can't switch on from like a light switch,winning is a habit.

Unless they have started giving out 7 or 8 points a match for beating Us and Liverpool, your team are going to be too far behind the the top 4.
(God that sounded good, saying that to a United fan)

Top 4 is no honour for Utd we are use to better than that,6 th will do me fine ( outside the EL) no European football next season will be a blessing for both the team and the supporter.

Regarding the current crop of players or as they are still known Champions, the squad is as good as any in the Prem inc City,first eleven no,squad yes.
It's obvious the change of management hasn't gone down well with the experience players ,and it's looks like most of them will be off ski sooner than expected , but I,m sure they will purchase suitable replacements ,they have done in the past,so I can't see why that should change.
So no panic from our household ,after so much success i was prepared for a dodgy spell when the great man jacked it in.Quite enjoying really.keeps them in the headlines as ever.[ /quote]

1) Regarding the current crop of players or as they are still known Champions, the squad is as good as any in the Prem inc City,first eleven no,squad yes.
GOT TO BE A WUM. STILL CALLED THE CHAMPIONS? DO YOU MEAN THE WORST CHAMPIONS IN THE HISTORY OF THE PREMIERSHIP? SOME OF YOUR FIRST TEAM ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH SO THE 'SQUAD PLAYERS' YOU RATE SO HIGHLY SHOULD REPLACE THEM.

2) It's obvious the change of management hasn't gone down well with the experience players ,and it's looks like most of them will be off ski sooner than expected , but I,m sure they will purchase suitable replacements ,they have done in the past,so I can't see why that should change.
I ASSUME YOU WEREN'T BORN OR A UNITED SUPPORTER CIRCA 1969-70? THERE WAS A SIMILAR SCENARIO WHERE MR MAN. UNITED LEFT AND HAD TO COME BACK. YOU HAD THE MOST MONEY THEN. DIDN'T MEAN A THING.

3) So no panic from our household ,after so much success i was prepared for a dodgy spell when the great man jacked it in.Quite enjoying really.keeps them in the headlines as ever.
BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT. EVEN THOUGH YOUR CLUB OVER ACHIEVED LAST SEASON, THE 11 POINT MARGIN PLUS ANOTHER PLAYER IN YOUR SQUAD COSTING OVER £25M (MORE THAN CITY OR CHELSEA HAVE HAD, WOULD YOU BELIEVE) SHOULD HAVE GUARANTEED A BETTER SHOW THAN YOU PRETEND TO BE HAPPY WITH.
I BELIEVE IF YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR EUROPE, NO TOP CLASS PLAYERS WILL BE HEADING YOUR WAY.
ACCEPT THE NEXT CYCLE OF SUCCESS. YOU'RE NOT IN IT.
(That sounded even better saying it to a United fan)

 

[mcmanus]

Regarding the current crop of players or as they are still known Champions, the squad is as good as any in the Prem inc City,first eleven no,squad yes.
It's obvious the change of management hasn't gone down well with the experience players ,and it's looks like most of them will be off ski sooner than expected , but I,m sure they will purchase suitable replacements ,they have done in the past,so I can't see why that should change.

Let me tell you about this squad that is as good as any in the PL. Around Christmas time I was talking to a journalist who covers the Manchester clubs for one of the big papers. I've known this guy for some time and our families go back even further. Him (and some other journalists) had been briefed by club insiders about Moyes' plans for the squad. Of that established squad, there were 6 names considered not good enough.

Obviously Anderson was one, along with Valencia, Young & Nani. At the back Smalling and Jones were considered too limited and hadn't developed sufficiently. Moyes and Ferdinand don't speak after Rio lost his rag with Moyes, who told him he should aspire to be Phil Jagielka. Camelgob reeled off what he'd won and said to Moyes "Now - what the fuck have you & Phil Jagielka won?" In addition, Cleverley has been given another season to prove himself or he's out the door as well.

Of the new players Zaha simply didn't train well enough so they fucked him off and then there's Fellaini. When they train, they have two 'keep ball' circles with the technically better players in one and the others in the second. Fellaini apparently can't even reach the standard of the latter circle he is so poor technically. And that's what they paid £27.5m for (which is more than we paid for Silva, Nasri or Yaya). Evra would like to stay but there's no word one way or the other from the club.

So this squad now seems to consist of Rafael, Evans, Buttner, possibly Evra, Varela (who hasn't played), Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini, Cleverley (who's on a last chance), Kagawa, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj, Welbeck, Hernadez and RVP.

And of those, Kagawa, Hernandez and van Persie are very unhappy, particularly the latter. That's your squad of "champions".

That will be in Thursday's Guardian. :-)

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Serious question to all.

They dont get top 4. What does Shrek do???

Will the Kings road be calling??

He's probably assured them he will stay if they sign quality in the summer, regardless of their position in the league come the end of the season. Thing is though, as was explained to our red friend above, who the fuck are they going to attract if they fail to make CL? I would say nobody of any worth. If Rooney goes, I would say it would be next January if summer is a total disaster for them.

Short memories and that we attracted plenty of quality without champions league football we just had to rape the shit out of the wages