United thread 2013/14

[Citizen_Ando]

"He's no Yaya Toure". Happy New Year. Enjoy.

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[supercrystal7]

caller on now thinks they should sign reus and "gunderang" from dortmund

If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

Their future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.

Disagree.

Their squad was looking old last season but the form of RVP, and the determination to hit back after City's title win on the last day, together with our weak defence saw them win the League but they have a number of players who are either over rated or past their best

De Gea is a good shot stopper, but he stays on his line, and when he does leave it, he makes mistakes
Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick and Giggs are all past their best whilst Kagawa has been poor.
Their top players are Rooney, and RVP and this season they have been injured a lot which means the cracks are more visible than they were last season. I think they can still make the 4th spot, but they'll need to get RVP back.

Having cracks and needing to replace certain players was a given. The same could be said about the Chelsea team.

Terry, Cech, Cole, Lampard, Etoo and Torres are past their best.

Carrick and Vidic are only 32. That's past your prime, but not ancient. It was only last year they had very good seasons. There is no reason they should be so poor this year.

De Gea is a great shot stopper and decent at coming off his line. He has worked hard at that part of his game and probably makes less mistakes than any other of the top 6 keepers in the league coming for the ball.

You also have not mentioned Jones, Januzaj, Rafael and Jones who all have world class potential. Smalling, Evans, Fabio and Zaha have potential to be solid first team regulars for a top team.

You are right that the standard of the Premiership had dropped. City really picked it up this year, but you spent the best part of a 100 million improving a squad that came second. The current City team is in their prime and will be strong for the next 3 or so years.

Was Moyes left with the Bayern Munich squad? No. However, it was not this poisoned chalice some people are making it out. It's a squad behind City, but at the same level as Chelsea/Arsenal and above Tottenham/Everto/Liverpool.

 

[BWTAC]

If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

Their future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.

Disagree.

Their squad was looking old last season but the form of RVP, and the determination to hit back after City's title win on the last day, together with our weak defence saw them win the League but they have a number of players who are either over rated or past their best

De Gea is a good shot stopper, but he stays on his line, and when he does leave it, he makes mistakes
Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick and Giggs are all past their best whilst Kagawa has been poor.
Their top players are Rooney, and RVP and this season they have been injured a lot which means the cracks are more visible than they were last season. I think they can still make the 4th spot, but they'll need to get RVP back.

Having cracks and needing to replace certain players was a given. The same could be said about the Chelsea team.

Terry, Cech, Cole, Lampard, Etoo and Torres are past their best.

Carrick and Vidic are only 32. That's past your prime, but not ancient. It was only last year they had very good seasons. There is no reason they should be so poor this year.

De Gea is a great shot stopper and decent at coming off his line. He has worked hard at that part of his game and probably makes less mistakes than any other of the top 6 keepers in the league coming for the ball.

You also have not mentioned Jones, Januzaj, Rafael and Jones who all have world class potential. Smalling, Evans, Fabio and Zaha have potential to be solid first team regulars for a top team.

You are right that the standard of the Premiership had dropped. City really picked it up this year, but you spent the best part of a 100 million improving a squad that came second. The current City team is in their prime and will be strong for the next 3 or so years.

Was Moyes left with the Bayern Munich squad? No. However, it was not this poisoned chalice some people are making it out. It's a squad behind City, but at the same level as Chelsea/Arsenal and above Tottenham/Everto/Liverpool.

You really need to change your name to supercrystalmeth7.

 

[samharris]

I feel sorry for them..





















right,thats that..back to taking the piss..

 

[Bilboblue]

"He's no Yaya Toure". Happy New Year. Enjoy.

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'Seriously thinking of not renewing my season ticket'

Sums that shite scummy cheating bastard club up.

Glory hunting fuckwits.

 

[samharris]

Disagree.

Their squad was looking old last season but the form of RVP, and the determination to hit back after City's title win on the last day, together with our weak defence saw them win the League but they have a number of players who are either over rated or past their best

De Gea is a good shot stopper, but he stays on his line, and when he does leave it, he makes mistakes
Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick and Giggs are all past their best whilst Kagawa has been poor.
Their top players are Rooney, and RVP and this season they have been injured a lot which means the cracks are more visible than they were last season. I think they can still make the 4th spot, but they'll need to get RVP back.

Having cracks and needing to replace certain players was a given. The same could be said about the Chelsea team.

Terry, Cech, Cole, Lampard, Etoo and Torres are past their best.

Carrick and Vidic are only 32. That's past your prime, but not ancient. It was only last year they had very good seasons. There is no reason they should be so poor this year.

De Gea is a great shot stopper and decent at coming off his line. He has worked hard at that part of his game and probably makes less mistakes than any other of the top 6 keepers in the league coming for the ball.

You also have not mentioned Jones, Januzaj, Rafael and Jones who all have world class potential. Smalling, Evans, Fabio and Zaha have potential to be solid first team regulars for a top team.

You are right that the standard of the Premiership had dropped. City really picked it up this year, but you spent the best part of a 100 million improving a squad that came second. The current City team is in their prime and will be strong for the next 3 or so years.

Was Moyes left with the Bayern Munich squad? No. However, it was not this poisoned chalice some people are making it out. It's a squad behind City, but at the same level as Chelsea/Arsenal and above Tottenham/Everto/Liverpool.

You really need to change your name to supercrystalmeth7.

Cant take most of that seriously tbh..

 

[jimharri]

"He's no Yaya Toure". Happy New Year. Enjoy.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzOYS46aD_o[/youtube]

'Seriously thinking of not renewing my season ticket'

Sums that shite scummy cheating bastard club up.

Glory hunting fuckwits.

That can't be right; a Manc accent at the shitpit?

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Having cracks and needing to replace certain players was a given. The same could be said about the Chelsea team.

Terry, Cech, Cole, Lampard, Etoo and Torres are past their best.

Carrick and Vidic are only 32. That's past your prime, but not ancient. It was only last year they had very good seasons. There is no reason they should be so poor this year.

De Gea is a great shot stopper and decent at coming off his line. He has worked hard at that part of his game and probably makes less mistakes than any other of the top 6 keepers in the league coming for the ball.

You also have not mentioned Jones, Januzaj, Rafael and Jones who all have world class potential. Smalling, Evans, Fabio and Zaha have potential to be solid first team regulars for a top team.

You are right that the standard of the Premiership had dropped. City really picked it up this year, but you spent the best part of a 100 million improving a squad that came second. The current City team is in their prime and will be strong for the next 3 or so years.

Was Moyes left with the Bayern Munich squad? No. However, it was not this poisoned chalice some people are making it out. It's a squad behind City, but at the same level as Chelsea/Arsenal and above Tottenham/Everto/Liverpool.

You really need to change your name to supercrystalmeth7.

Cant take most of that seriously tbh..

None of it for me, other than the words "It's a squad behind City."

 

[TCIB]

If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

Their future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.

Disagree.

Their squad was looking old last season but the form of RVP, and the determination to hit back after City's title win on the last day, together with our weak defence saw them win the League but they have a number of players who are either over rated or past their best

De Gea is a good shot stopper, but he stays on his line, and when he does leave it, he makes mistakes
Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick and Giggs are all past their best whilst Kagawa has been poor.
Their top players are Rooney, and RVP and this season they have been injured a lot which means the cracks are more visible than they were last season. I think they can still make the 4th spot, but they'll need to get RVP back.

Having cracks and needing to replace certain players was a given. The same could be said about the Chelsea team.

Terry, Cech, Cole, Lampard, Etoo and Torres are past their best.

Carrick and Vidic are only 32. That's past your prime, but not ancient. It was only last year they had very good seasons. There is no reason they should be so poor this year.

De Gea is a great shot stopper and decent at coming off his line. He has worked hard at that part of his game and probably makes less mistakes than any other of the top 6 keepers in the league coming for the ball.

You also have not mentioned Jones, Januzaj, Rafael and Jones who all have world class potential. Smalling, Evans, Fabio and Zaha have potential to be solid first team regulars for a top team.

You are right that the standard of the Premiership had dropped. City really picked it up this year, but you spent the best part of a 100 million improving a squad that came second. The current City team is in their prime and will be strong for the next 3 or so years.

Was Moyes left with the Bayern Munich squad? No. However, it was not this poisoned chalice some people are making it out. It's a squad behind City, but at the same level as Chelsea/Arsenal and above Tottenham/Everto/Liverpool.

Not convinced anyone could demonstrate the quality of the prem has dropped, i don't buy it either.
Dynamics of the league and the many variables amalgamate to create an impression of lowering standards possibly.

The talk of potential regarding half their squad is wearing thin and has little merit. Most have had more than a few chances to make their mark but have been found wanting in some areas, not talk that lends it's self to world class players easily.
Smalling has if anything stagnated and Evans is average but reasonably solid.

The age of Vidic and similar cases is largely irrelevant, the issue is their injury issues, this is exacerbated by age no doubt.

I think you have issue with us not pointing fingers at other clubs.
This i am afraid will never change ate, utd will always get a rough ride of us and they deserve it (cunts).
Also a legitimate reason to focus on them more is they have had a stable long standing setup of which should have seen them secure now.
The fact they are not has to bring questions to the door of their management and thinking. It also provides a nucleation point for us to call the cunts every name under the sun :)

 

[r.soleofsalford]

If they were to make fourth it would not be that unrealistic. The only stumbling block is Madrid seem to be set to sign Gundogan. Say another midfielder takes their fancy then a bid of 60 million +Kagawa would leave the Dortmund fans more than happy to sell Gundogan+Reus.

Moyes is just doing a terrible job at United. The squad only need slight rebuilding and should have been about where Chelsea were now. They should have been a few points off the top and starting to settle into the managers new style. He is a good manager, but no where near good enough for title challengers and it appears not even good enough for a top 4 team. He looks way out of his depth.

United could start with a back 5 of De Gea, Vidic, Jones, Rafael and Evra. De Gea is the best keeper in the league and still very young. Evra is no where near what he once was, but can still do a job. They have good depth in the back with Smalling, Evans and Fabio. Going into this season they were fine, but might need a left back in the summer.

In midfield is where everyone knows they are weak. The only midfielder they had good enough for the top 4 is Carrick. Still they had 30 million to spend. Why didn't they buy Fernandinho, Moutinho, De Rossi or Gustavo? They could even had looked at slightly weaker players like Cabaye, Mcmarthur or Strootman. All of those would have vastly improved the midfield. Instead Moyes spent the best part of 30 million on Feilani; he is very good player, but not good enough or the right player for United.

On the winger they have two very promising wingers in Januzaj and Zaha. Zaha is raw and done nothing, but then again Moyes was hesitant to play Barkley last year. Young, Valencia and Nani may not be good enough, but can do a job for a season.

Upfront they have lots of quality with RVP and Rooney. Welbeck and Hernandez are more than capable back up. Kagawa can do a job behind the striker too.

Their future depends on who gets top four. If they get top 4 then they can continue to attract the big names and easily readdress the problems in the squad. Moyes however, is not good enough to challenge Mourinho or the City squad. Getting top four and winning the odd trophy is the best they could do with him.

If they don't get top 4 then once more it depends on who gets it. Best case scenario for them Everton grab top 4. They simply dont have the infrastructure, the clout or the money to solidify there place. Playing in the CL would mean they certainly do not get back there the next season. However, if Liverpool get top 4 then United's decline could become very serious in a hurry. Liverpool have the name, the clout in Europe, the talented young manager and the money to take their place in the top four. This could really lead to them falling into just a top 6 side.

Other big problems they have in the summer is that there two best players are probably going to be off if they don't make top 4. Rooney would have just 1 year left on his contract and they would be forced to sell. RVP looked unhappy from the start of the season and would likely demand a move at the end of the year. These two would bring in money, but United out of the top 4 and without Rooney/RVP (their most famous players) would really struggle to replace them.

Disagree.

Their squad was looking old last season but the form of RVP, and the determination to hit back after City's title win on the last day, together with our weak defence saw them win the League but they have a number of players who are either over rated or past their best

De Gea is a good shot stopper, but he stays on his line, and when he does leave it, he makes mistakes
Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick and Giggs are all past their best whilst Kagawa has been poor.
Their top players are Rooney, and RVP and this season they have been injured a lot which means the cracks are more visible than they were last season. I think they can still make the 4th spot, but they'll need to get RVP back.

Having cracks and needing to replace certain players was a given. The same could be said about the Chelsea team.

Terry, Cech, Cole, Lampard, Etoo and Torres are past their best.

Carrick and Vidic are only 32. That's past your prime, but not ancient. It was only last year they had very good seasons. There is no reason they should be so poor this year.

De Gea is a great shot stopper and decent at coming off his line. He has worked hard at that part of his game and probably makes less mistakes than any other of the top 6 keepers in the league coming for the ball.

You also have not mentioned Jones, Januzaj, Rafael and Jones who all have world class potential. Smalling, Evans, Fabio and Zaha have potential to be solid first team regulars for a top team.

You are right that the standard of the Premiership had dropped. City really picked it up this year, but you spent the best part of a 100 million improving a squad that came second. The current City team is in their prime and will be strong for the next 3 or so years.

Was Moyes left with the Bayern Munich squad? No. However, it was not this poisoned chalice some people are making it out. It's a squad behind City, but at the same level as Chelsea/Arsenal and above Tottenham/Everto/Liverpool.

which player would make it into the city first eleven or the chelsea and arsenal squad,

the only players i would even think about are rooney, rvp and de gea and the first two, one been injured more than he`s been fit over the last 10 years and rooney will be one fat fuck before he`s 30 and probably washed up imo