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kippax81 said:
That's a brilliant put-down.
Well done, mate!
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That's a brilliant put-down.
Well done, mate!
Mr Ed (The Stables)
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Prestwich_Blue said:You're right. I forgot Rooney will be in the final year of his contract next season.supercrystal7 said:No chance can they get anywhere near 50 million for Rooney. He will be in the last year of his contract and if they don't sell they could lose him for nothing the season after.. 30 million would be considered a great offer for him and more than they would likely get. Rooney is also one of those players that is big name and is rated more than he should be by other players. Losing him would be a huge blow in trying to attract other players.Prestwich_Blue said:Is it possible they could spend £150m or that fbloke posted that?
They could spend £150m but it's more a case of do they want to. People are confusing two conflicting objectives: wanting to win things (which the fans and players want to do) and wanting to make money(which the Glazers want to do). Under Baconface they could do both to some degree but the Glazers weren't happy about the increase in costs. Some would say that one leads to the other and they'd have a point but the key question is how much would you need to spend to do that and what would it be worth if you did.
There's relatively little difference between coming 1st/2nd in the PL and 5th/6th. There's probably a bit more between going out in the last 16 of the CL and the semis but not a great deal more. They're still a huge global brand so they're pulling in as much commercial income as they can. Maybe in 10 years time if they've disappeared into consistent mid table mediocrity that might change but they're still big.
As I've said, not being in the CL might even be cost-neutral at worst. They'll be clearing some go the big-earners out, plus a few others. Ferdinand, Evra, Giggs, Vidic and Rooney may all go. They could get £50m or more for Rooney, plus some more for players like Anderson, Nani, Valencia & Young. Let's say £25m for those 4. If they stick another £50m in the pot that's £125m.
From an FFP perspective, the major cost would be amortisation so spending £125m would 'cost' them £25m a year over 5 years. But they'd get most of that back in wage reductions so there would be minimal impact on their finances.
Don't think there is any chance of them having close to 150 million to spend. Most sponsorship deals are also performance based. It will be a big, but certainly not fatal blow to miss out on the top 4.
Losing the likes of Evra, Vidic and Ferdinand will free up wages, but similar to Rooney it will massively dent to their appeal. Top players want to go to a club they think are going places. Even Barcelona struggled to attract players when they had finished outside the top four. Beckham and Owen are two of the players that rejected them and Ronaldinho only went cos Madrid did not consider him a priority. The money freed up on those players would also have to be spent on the players they try and bring in to replace them.
And is it right he can buy himself out of his contract in October 2104 under the Webster ruling? Something was mentioned today in the commentary to that effect but I only half heard it so I might be wrong.
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and with that greaseball of an agent he's got would you put it past him?Mr Ed (The Stables) said:Prestwich_Blue said:You're right. I forgot Rooney will be in the final year of his contract next season.supercrystal7 said:No chance can they get anywhere near 50 million for Rooney. He will be in the last year of his contract and if they don't sell they could lose him for nothing the season after.. 30 million would be considered a great offer for him and more than they would likely get. Rooney is also one of those players that is big name and is rated more than he should be by other players. Losing him would be a huge blow in trying to attract other players.
Don't think there is any chance of them having close to 150 million to spend. Most sponsorship deals are also performance based. It will be a big, but certainly not fatal blow to miss out on the top 4.
Losing the likes of Evra, Vidic and Ferdinand will free up wages, but similar to Rooney it will massively dent to their appeal. Top players want to go to a club they think are going places. Even Barcelona struggled to attract players when they had finished outside the top four. Beckham and Owen are two of the players that rejected them and Ronaldinho only went cos Madrid did not consider him a priority. The money freed up on those players would also have to be spent on the players they try and bring in to replace them.
And is it right he can buy himself out of his contract in October 2104 under the Webster ruling? Something was mentioned today in the commentary to that effect but I only half heard it so I might be wrong.
DiscoSteve
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absolutely not. that's us, 1937/38 season. relegated #footballdidnotbeginin1992ws01 said:Worst title defence ever so far?
kippax81
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Schmeichel's pain on MOTD 2 is a thing of beauty.
Take it you rag twat.
Take it you rag twat.
Citysmith
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kippax81 said:Schmeichel's pain on MOTD 2 is a thing of beauty.
Take it you rag twat.
Proper tears in the eyes stuff :o)
Take it, Take it, Take it... Suck it up Raggy
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What was the stat quoted on MOTD about the last time Chelsea scored a hat trick against the Scum was it 1953?
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Thought he said 1954/55.Blueboy Danny said:What was the stat quoted on MOTD about the last time Chelsea scored a hat trick against the Scum was it 1953?
Vienna_70 said:kippax81 said:scousemanc said:I remember thinking exactly the same on that day
I had the same conversation with our kid on the way back home from the final v Stoke. You could tell from their disgraceful behaviour on the pitch at the end of the game that we had seriously hurt them.......they KNEW we were better than them.
Cue the three games the following season, especially the 'come back' in the FA cup,.........they knew we were better than them. Even though Bacon threw everything at it to wrestle the title back last season, in the 2 league games we were the better side.
They have stood still and we have strengthened, both on and off the pitch. The worm has well and truly turned.
On a side note, I had a text from an old mate who is a rag, after today's game..........
rag..........'go on then, start gloating'
me........about what?
rag........this weekend's games and our result
me.........no point, you're not a relevance to us any more
I haven't heard anything since for some strange reason :-)
That's a brilliant put-down.
Well done, mate!
Tucking superb...great reply. Many more days of joy to come. At 53 and after so many years of shit from the low life glory seeking text bastards I and sure my many blue colleagues and friends gonna fucking love this...don't fucking sack him!
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