United Thread 2014/15 (continued)

[CheethamHillBlue]

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

So basically, Southampton's owners could invest over 5 years, the equivalent of what you twats spent on Tia Maria and Falcao's wages in ONE season?

Fair play to you.

 

[redmanc34]

If ffp stays as it is right now, I'd be willing to bet everything I own including the clothes I've got on and all future earnings that no team outside the current top 5 will win the prem in my lifetime. Doesn't sound very fair to me. Let's face it, if it wasn't for our owners I would of prob lived my entire life without seeing city win a trophy. I was born in December 76, I was 35 when we won fa cup. it's possible we might of won a cup one day, but a league title? No chance. If villa don't beat arsenal, what are the chances of winning a trophy in a lot of their supporters lifetimes? Slim. What are villas chances of winning the league ever again? Zero.

I doubt that, things just go in phases, Liverpool in the 80's, United now. Look at how you were doing before Mansour, and even Shinawatra, you got yourself back in the Premier League, had some decent players coming through and were playing in the UEFA Cup weren't you. You have an actual hardcore fanbase of what 38-42,000. So for me you could built upon what you already had, probably could have won a UEFA Cup or Europa League, then you don't know after that how things could have worked out.

 

[manimanc]

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

So basically, Southampton's owners could invest over 5 years, the equivalent of what you twats spent on Tia Maria and Falcao's wages in ONE season?

Fair play to you.

"you can look it up"....
Have you been on Google and got all the info and then come on here armed to the back teeth with facts and figures and then passed it off as your own knowledge?
Pmsl
What a massive, massive utd fan your are...
I bet we got lads on here who have been to the swamp more times than you..
You sound an absolute fuckin tool pal.

 

[redmanc34]

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

So basically, Southampton's owners could invest over 5 years, the equivalent of what you twats spent on Tia Maria and Falcao's wages in ONE season?

Fair play to you.

No thats how much he did invest. You can invest £90m a season to help with running costs under FFP ruling

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I am aware of that and FFP allows a certain amount of injection by the board to meet running costs, What he did Southampton would have still passed from the amount he invested

You held the Saints up as some sort a paragon of virtue and yet they were bankrolled by a billionaire, without him they wouldnt be in the Prem. As i said in a previous post most lower league sides can either invest in the first team or their youth system, unless they have a lot of outside investment, they cant do both. So the example you gave, not us, of Southampton, wouldnt have been possible without a sugar daddy's investment not as you stated by using money from parachute payments, sponsorship and TV rights to set up an academy. The money they got from the sources you mentioned, wasnt enough to prevent them getting relegated into league 1 and going into administration. You really are making it up as you go along.

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

So now, well after I brought him up you are acknowledging Markus Liebherr's existence, why when you first stated chatting shite about Southampton, being some sort of FFP paragon of virtue, did you only mention:

Southampton invested large sums of money they received years back from parachute payments, sponsorship, and TV rights into their academy

The fact is those sources of money werent enough to prevent them going into administration. Any fool can seem enlightened with the aid of google after the event, if you were aware of it before i brought it up, why didnt you mention the most significant investment in Southampton around the period you were talking about if you knew about it. The thing is you only mentioned the revenue streams that took them to the brink of folding more than suggests you didnt know at all.

You are a revisionist, you keep proving it time and time again, and have the audacity to say to others 'i thought you knew about football'. Without google i think you would struggle to form a sentence let alone a coherent argument. Now you can try and shift the focus again but it wont work you simpleton.

Oh and for someone who doesnt care about City, you are spending a lot of time and effort on one of our forums.

 

[redmanc34]

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

So basically, Southampton's owners could invest over 5 years, the equivalent of what you twats spent on Tia Maria and Falcao's wages in ONE season?

Fair play to you.

"you can look it up"....
Have you been on Google and got all the info and then come on here armed to the back teeth with facts and figures and then passed it off as your own knowledge?
Pmsl
What a massive, massive utd fan your are...
I bet we got lads on here who have been to the swamp more times than you..
You sound an absolute fuckin tool pal.

We're talking about Southampton here bud. Not sure what you're on about there

 

[HelloCity]

I am aware of that and FFP allows a certain amount of injection by the board to meet running costs, What he did Southampton would have still passed from the amount he invested

You held the Saints up as some sort a paragon of virtue and yet they were bankrolled by a billionaire, without him they wouldnt be in the Prem. As i said in a previous post most lower league sides can either invest in the first team or their youth system, unless they have a lot of outside investment, they cant do both. So the example you gave, not us, of Southampton, wouldnt have been possible without a sugar daddy's investment not as you stated by using money from parachute payments, sponsorship and TV rights to set up an academy. The money they got from the sources you mentioned, wasnt enough to prevent them getting relegated into league 1 and going into administration. You really are making it up as you go along.

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

Blinded by bias.

Yes they would have passed UEFA competition FFP but the money invested was gigantic for the level of Championship and League One.

What are you even arguing? Southampton will never win the league without the relative required investment and FFP stops that from happening. Even if they did get the players through youth and good buys then it wouldn't last because teams with big money would circle like vultures and pick them off.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Not really. They probably would. He invested £75m over 5 years, you can look that up.Thats well within the FFP guidelines. £15m a season of his own money is fine. So FFP wouldn't have been an issue at all.

So basically, Southampton's owners could invest over 5 years, the equivalent of what you twats spent on Tia Maria and Falcao's wages in ONE season?

Fair play to you.

No thats how much he did invest. You can invest £90m a season to help with running costs under FFP ruling

Not under the football league rules you cant. Try again.

Blackburn, Leeds and Forest all exceeded the maximum permitted deviation of £8m - consisting of a maximum adjusted operating loss of £3m plus a further maximum of £5m of shareholder investment - during the 2013/14 playing season. Each club will have the opportunity to have its FFP embargo lifted at the end of the season by demonstrating that it has stayed within the maximum permitted deviation of £6m (£3m operating loss plus £3m shareholder investment) for the 2014/15 season.

 

[redmanc34]

So basically, Southampton's owners could invest over 5 years, the equivalent of what you twats spent on Tia Maria and Falcao's wages in ONE season?

Fair play to you.

No thats how much he did invest. You can invest £90m a season to help with running costs under FFP ruling

Not under the football league rules you cant. Try again.

Blackburn, Leeds and Forest all exceeded the maximum permitted deviation of £8m - consisting of a maximum adjusted operating loss of £3m plus a further maximum of £5m of shareholder investment - during the 2013/14 playing season. Each club will have the opportunity to have its FFP embargo lifted at the end of the season by demonstrating that it has stayed within the maximum permitted deviation of £6m (£3m operating loss plus £3m shareholder investment) for the 2014/15 season.

Yeah the £90m was in reply to how much you can inject in the PL, not the football league, thats what I was talking about there.

 

[Bozzie]

Well 46 posts in 4 days, not bad for someone who couldn't give a flying fuck about our little club. I'd hate to see what would happen if this idiot ever became 'obsessed' with us!