United Thread 2014/15

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If I was them I'd be worried about Real Madrid eyeing up De Gea, Casillas is 34 soon so they may be wanting to get in an understudy for him. Very few Spanish footballers would turn down RM although De Gea was an Atletico player... Still, if RM wave boatloads of money under his nose based on getting him on a free I suppose he might get convinced ;-)

If his contract does run out next summer then he's free to talk to other clubs in January - I'd laugh my socks off if he left on a free to RM :-)
 
Mankymeat FC said:
Bluewonder said:
MeatHunterrr said:
They won't get 3 points at Southampton, draw at best.
Last week I would've agreed, but Southampton are now missing their two best players: Alderweireld and Schneiderlin.

And have started losing games. Probably the best time to play them. Although, united are ravaged by injuries.

T Thorpe Knock no return date
A Di Maria Hamstring Injury 14th Dec 14
W Rooney Knee Injury no return date
L Shaw Ankle/Foot Injury 13th Dec 14
D Blind MCL Knee Ligament Injury 1st Jan 15
Rafael Groin/Pelvis Injury 8th Dec 14
P Jones Calf/Shin Injury 20th Dec 14
J Evans Ankle/Foot Injury 8th Dec 14
J Lingard Knee Injury 14th Dec 14

Isn't it an advantage to the scummy bastards that Evans, the new Stan and fatty Shaw are all out?
 
Bluewonder said:
Henkeman said:
RyanP3609 said:
That's what I thought, without top 4 no1 of any note is going to want to go them either.

Throw enough money at them and they'd get players. But without top four I'm not sure they could afford it.

Yep, that was my point. I still think players would go there (look at Falcao and Di Maria) but without the CL revenue they would struggle to afford that.

Falcao wanted to go to Real Madrid, but ended up at the swamp after allegedly failing a medical there, following which we were supposedly warned off and di Maria wanted to go to PSG, but couldn't due to FFPR restrictions.
 
Vienna_70 said:
Bluewonder said:
Henkeman said:
Throw enough money at them and they'd get players. But without top four I'm not sure they could afford it.

Yep, that was my point. I still think players would go there (look at Falcao and Di Maria) but without the CL revenue they would struggle to afford that.

Falcao wanted to go to Real Madrid, but ended up at the swamp after allegedly failing a medical there, following which we were supposedly warned off and di Maria wanted to go to PSG, but couldn't due to FFPR restrictions.
Yeah, but my point is that players will follow money and would still go there without CL football, providing they were sufficiently remunerated. So without CL revenue they would struggle to pay the ridiculous wages required to attract top talent.
 
Bluewonder said:
Vienna_70 said:
Bluewonder said:
Yep, that was my point. I still think players would go there (look at Falcao and Di Maria) but without the CL revenue they would struggle to afford that.

Falcao wanted to go to Real Madrid, but ended up at the swamp after allegedly failing a medical there, following which we were supposedly warned off and di Maria wanted to go to PSG, but couldn't due to FFPR restrictions.
Yeah, but my point is that players will follow money and would still go there without CL football, providing they were sufficiently remunerated. So without CL revenue they would struggle to pay the ridiculous wages required to attract top talent.

Fair point.

And as much as we don't like to admit it, there is still a draw for some players to turn out for the scummy bastards.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
keith's curle said:
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They're playing Southampton. I don't suppose United have a grey kit these days, do they?
Even better, looking at the equivalent games last season (i.e. excluding the promoted teams) they got 23 points compared to 21 last season. If you substitute the promoted teams last season for those this season then their 25 points this season was actually 31 last season.

So they're actually 6 points down this season under Turtlehead, on the equivalent games under wee Davey.
Looking at equivalent results is completely pointless and meaningless. Teams change and the form teams are in when you play them changes.
Thank you Captain Sensible.

I accept that it's possibly simplistic but I'd argue that it's neither meaningless or pointless. The PL consists of three groups of teams - the top seven who will take the European slots, the newly promoted teams plus the perennial strugglers, then another group who will occupy the middle of the table, with possibly one of those having a good season and one or two having a poor one. Those groups rarely change. You could say Stoke & Swansea moved out of the 'at risk' group into the middle group and West Brom/Villa went the other way but that's taken a few seasons.

So if you're in that top group, you'd be expected to beat the teams below you. Of course there are freak results & teams have bad runs due to key injuries or loss of confidence but statistically you can probably come up with an average depending on which group you're in against the teams you meet.

I agree you can't judge it on single games but by the time you've got to this stage of the season, a pattern begins to emerge which is probably statistically significant. That doesn't mean they won't beat teams they lost to or drew with last season as their form could indeed improve and they could go on an extended winning run. But right now, they clearly aren't doing as well as they did last season.
 
Henkeman said:
From the Guardian:

Manchester United are planning another summer transfer splurge after this year’s £150m spend, with Real Madrid being viewed as the model for a strategy to recruit an elite player for every position in Louis van Gaal’s squad.

The manager has been told he does not have to work to a particular budget as the club is prepared to sanction a world record transfer bid in line with the policy of last summer, according to senior figures.

Van Gaal wants to add a midfielder, a right-back, one or two central defenders, a wide player and potentially a striker. The Dutchman is targeting Roma’s Kevin Strootman, who would cost around £30m, Borussia Dortmund’s Mats Hummels who may be priced up to £35m, Atlético Madrid’s Diego Godín – in the region of £25m – Barcelona’s Dani Alves, for around £15m, and may potentially move for Arjen Robben, with the Bayern Munich winger costing no less than £40m. If United decide against taking Radamel Falcao permanently from Monaco – it would cost £43.5m to take up the club’s option – then Van Gaal would also be in the market for a striker.

The potential outlay could take United’s total spend in two years past £350m after the £27.5m paid for Marouane Fellaini and the £37.1m deal for Juan Mata in last January’s window. The manager is also to offload a number of players when embarking on a second close season of rebuilding that is viewed as a vital window to ensure United are able to seriously challenge again for the title and in Europe. Last summer 11 players left while nine more went out on loan and six were recruited, making for an overall turnover of 26.

Those who are vulnerable this year include a host of players currently out on loan, such as Nani, Tom Cleverley, Javier Hernández, Nick Powell, Reece James and Michael Keane, plus the reserve goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard. The latter’s future is in the balance as Spain international Victor Valdés is training at United as he continues rehabilitation from a serious knee injury. The club are yet to decide whether to sign Valdés when he returns to fitness though his relationship with Van Gaal, who managed him previously at Barcelona, means the manager is particularly familiar with his ability.

Darren Fletcher and Anderson have deals that finish at the close of the campaign, with the latter almost certain to depart. There are no plans to pay the Brazilian’s contract up and for him to leave in January.

David de Gea, the established No1, is yet to renew terms that expire in summer 2015 although the club are relaxed about the Spaniard committing his long-term future despite reported interest from Real Madrid. Michael Carrick’s terms expire at the end of the season but United have a one-way option to extend his stay and it would be a surprise if this was not taken up by the club.

The United executive are understood to be encouraged by the team’s progress this term, although they accept results might have been better. As Van Gaal has guided the team to fourth place in the Premier League before the start of the busy festive programme despite having to implement new ideas following the difficulties of a sizeable overhaul and an unprecedented run of injuries, the hierarchy view the future with optimism.

The club had expected Phil Jones, Jonny Evans and Chris Smalling to have their best seasons of availability yet, so there is surprise that all have suffered from injuries. With United not playing in Europe this season the forecast had been based on these players having the optimum recovery time between matches. With Van Gaal understood to rate Evans the pick of the trio, that may mean the futures of Jones and Smalling are in the balance.The lack of European football means United may take a mid-season break and while there are no current plans to do so it is understood Van Gaal would be able to order warm weather training at the last minute due to the ease of arranging a trip.

Prospective destinations would include Dubai, Doha and Qatar, with the timing likely to be some time in January. If the club were to play a friendly on the trip they would require permission from the governing body.

It's the United way you know.
I'v just had a quick look on rag café to see what the rats make of this, no mention of buying the league, no more mentions of City and our money, in other words they are still the two faced twats they always have been
Why has this supposed money now been released? Simples, Uncle Malc died, UCNMIU
Why did Ferguson not spend loads? Simples, The Govan Piss Can wanted to prove he could get one over on sugar daddy clubs like us and Chelsea even though the money was there, they really are a strange two faced load of fookers over on the caf
 
Haha, this is fantasy. Doubt they have the cash. This yrs spend only came about from a tax adjustment. Interesting this gets leaked just after our amazing accounts get released to keep the biggest set of fans in the Far East happy
 
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